Don't trade the pick

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  1. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    That would be a home run for Portland.

    I would likely go into the season with Dame/Sharpe/Bridges/Grant/Claxton with Ant off the bench, and keep the options open during the season to upgrade.
     
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    you said Portland has been "rebuilding for 10 years". I disagreed and explained why. You haven't said one word about what I said about rebuilding...you have just taken it in a real fucking weird "look at me" direction
     
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  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah but you have gotten to see us win one. I have not. I have only known heartbreak.
     
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    yes...I was watching on the TV with a couple of friends. Game 6 in Portland. Fucking Brent Mussberger calling the plays. And goddamn fucking CBS cut away from coverage shortly after the win for the Kemper fucking Open. Didn't get to see the celebrations afterward like they have for about every other championship

    went out with the friends and played some hoops in the afternoon after the win. Went out that night and maybe, just maybe, got drunk
     
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    Dude he’s about to be 33 and who wins titles building around point guards? Curry is rare bc he had 2 other Hall of Famers
     
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    BassPlaya Puntificator

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    ...but that doesn't point out that should that fail.....the carnage would likely be much farther reaching. Many, many years farther.
     
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    Oh boy
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Just once I would love to experience that.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Well, he said that Bridges/Claxton would be nice for #3/Nurk which I have to agree with, it would be pretty fucking nice.
    He never said it was realistic
     
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    Scoot/Sharpe/Jaylen Brown/Grant/Robert Williams + picks is pretty fucking intriguing...

    especially when combined with giving Dame a great shot at a title.
     
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    On the one hand you can say none of us will ever know the market until we hear a trade is agreed to.

    On the other hand, many of us have followed the NBA very closely for decades, understand the CBA, pay attention to other players and teams making similar trades, and have a reasonable basis to give an estimate of what these markets might be.

    Of course there are bad estimations on either direction, its going to be an inexact estimate, but exploring reasonable trade ideas is probably the main reason I'm on this site.
     
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    Blazers Comfortable Keeping No. 3 Pick

    https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271623/Blazers-Comfortable-Keeping-No-3-Pick

     
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    I think thats a very personal fan decision and theres no right or wrong answer.

    From a pure asset perspective it makes sense to trade Dame if there is no realistic way to build a contender with him in the next few seasons. He is in his prime and has great value throughout the league.

    Also what is available at pick #3? If its Scoot then its an odd fit to have Dame/Ant/Scoot all in the backcourt. But who knows, maybe one of them becomes a super 6th man and we have the all time highest scoring guard lineup in the history of basketball. I'd love to see that roster play some games even if there is a comical nature to it.

    I do believe there is a value in Dame being the best Blazer ever and the franchise showing him loyalty in return. It gives the Lakers a bit of aura, the Spurs with Pop, that they've stuck by their players. Compared that to the Bulls organization basically running Phil Jackson out of town and not doing everything to praise Jordan his final seasons. Can leave a good or bad taste on everyone's mouth for many decades.

    So personally I'm fine keeping Dame in Portland, planning for him to retire as a Blazer. If the Blazers are rebuilding he can play the Kobe role his final years, or Reggie Miller having young players like Jermain Oneal grow with the franchise. Plus who knows, if the Blazers build with some youth right now for a few years they might be in a position to contend with Dame as an old Dallas Jason Kidd role. It just might take a few more years than Dame would prefer.

    The main thing I'm not fine with is seeing the Blazers trade away #3 pick, Sharpe, future 1st, and possibly even Ant for a bunch of mediocre veterans that don't give the team a path to immediately contend.
     
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    I think at the end of the day, it's going to depend on whether we value Scoot/Miller more than we value Bridges/Siakam, and vice versa. If we decide that Bridges is worth it, I could see us sending out the 3 and some future picks if we can get Chicago to take the NY pick.
     
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    If you had a second deal lined up for Ant going out to net something that would be great.
     
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    Lol.....guess I'm just not as fascinated with your posts. Full of good information, but damn, take it personal much?

    Rebuilding is relative if you really want a reply. We haven't been good so we have been in a rebuilding situation whether we were doing it at all, doing it well, or doing it poorly. We haven't been close to a legit contender for decades. It would be nice to to something more properly for once.

    #enjoy your day.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think Ant needs to go, one way or another.
     
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    this could just be smoke....could be the Blazers trying to pump up the value of their pick. Might get better offers if it's the prevailing wisdom Portland might keep the pick after all

    for myself, without any inside info at all, I don't think Portland keeping the pick is that far-fetched. The odds are probably with trading it, but it might be less than 60-40 odds at this point: maybe closer to to 50-50. And that could change if some player wows the FO in the workouts/interviews. I don't think the Blazers hired Mike Schmitz while planning to trade away a bunch of 1st's

    I also don't buy the idea that Dame asks out if Portland keeps the pick. That would mean the Blazers didn't get any compelling offers and Dame would know that
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think the value depends on who Charlotte picks.

    There will be some teams that want Scoot, and some teams that want Miller. I think Scoot will have more value and teams will want to wait and see if he's there at 3.

    If he has high enough value, I could see Charlotte trading back.
     
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