We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. glazeduck

    glazeduck Well-Known Member

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    If you're evaluating Scoot purely on his ability to shoot from long-distance, I'm sorry, but you're just doing it wrong.

    Yes, we've certainly been spoiled by Dame's range and overall shooting prowess, but that's not Scoot's game, nor why he's considered a top pick and potential franchise player. Do Giannis and Lebron get that same treatment? Scoot may or may not get to that level -- but that's far more his game and the reasons to get excited about him. He's an explosive athlete, built like a linebacker who excels in the mid-range, getting to the bucket and setting up his teammates. He's also tough as nails and a crazy competitor.

    Passing on him because he's not a great 3 point shooter at 19 makes about as much sense as passing on Dame because he's not good at defense -- he's not a perfect player, which is why he could be available at 3, but he's a talented enough athlete with the right makeup to improve on his weaknesses, that he could easily be a franchise player. Similarly, just as we all wish Dame was the second coming of Gary Payton on defense, we'll wish and hope that Scoot improves his shooting... Unlike a lot of other traits, shooting actually is a skill that has proven to be improvable...
     
  2. Predator

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    Some people say Amen has the highest upside in the draft outside of Wemby, but he also has one of the lowest floors because his shooting is even more questionable than Scoot's.
     
  3. Predator

    Predator The Godfather

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    LeBron and Giannis are 6'8+, not 6'2 (if that). Pretty big difference.
     
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    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    yeah...Scoot looks like he might be around 6'2....maybe. I know he was not the only one who didn't participate in the measurements of the pre-draft combine, but it does make me wonder if he's worried about the numbers, or at least his agent may be
     
  5. glazeduck

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    I mean... doesn't that go without saying? Would calling him the Lebron/Giannis of PGs make that sit better? He plays a similar type of aggressive, physical, get-to-the-basket basketball. I don't think there's any different expectation of wings than there are of lead guards to be great shooters, it's not like I compared him to Boban...
     
  6. glazeduck

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    This is similar to the "Brandon Roy kept information about his knee injury secret" line of thinking... Scoot will be measured by any team he visits, we will know everything about his body that we need to. Whether he's 6'0" 1/2 or 6'3", he's still a PG, an inch won't make a lot of difference...
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    There's no need to apologize for a top 75 all time player. Lack of respect for a great player is worth standing up to the BS. An unproven player being great is purely speculation. And should be treated as such.
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Dwyane Wade was never a great shooter.
     
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    HailBlazers RipCity

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    First time I saw this photo I didn't realize Scoot was sitting down.

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    Still shot better than Scoot, and wasn't playing at a high level in the NBA post-3pt revolution in 2015 or so.

    In the modern game, the only player who comes close is Ja Morant and he shot significantly better from what I recall.
     
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    I mean, it could go without saying, but that's a pretty big factor. If Giannis and/or LeBron weren't 6'8+, they wouldn't be nearly as successful. Teams literally live Giannis wide open at 3 and he just trucks in towards the rim.

    LeBron and Giannis could challenge Embiid / Lopez / Rudy Gobert at the rim. Scoot Henderson will fall on his ass if he tries to truck through those guys at the rim. They can attack Jaren Jackson off the dribble. If Scoot did that his shot would end up in the 10th row.
     
  13. glazeduck

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    This is quite literally how we got Bowie over Jordan and Oden over Durant.
     
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    Morant was a 30.7% three-point shooter this season, but took more 3-pointers than any other season (5 per game) in 2022-23.

    Even with those dreadful numbers, he has been an All-Star starter the last two seasons, and his team has obtained the #2 seed in those seasons.
     
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    Also look at how the front of the pool table is 2 feet shorter than the back.
     
  17. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    Ayton in a Blazer uni made me throw up in my mouth a little -- Ayton might be one of the most overrated players in the league and is a step well maybe 2 or 3 above Ben Simmons as he is at the absolute bottom so much at the bottom that he is a tier all unto himself so anything would be better then him so not saying much.
     
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    You would rather have KAT?
     
  19. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    Small quibble...
    The receiving team only has to wait 6-months until they can extend the contract. If the trade happens July 1, by January 1 the player can agree to an extension prior to hitting FA in the summer.
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I didn't bring him up. I was just responding to someone else by saying that he did struggle initially.

    My comparisons for him were Rose, Westbrook, and Wall.
     

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