OT Mental Health

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Fez Hammersticks, May 27, 2023.

  1. donkiez

    donkiez Well-Known Member

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    That's fine, do what you want. I just thought it was worth explaining how your words can have negative impacts on people in a fragile state who need help. Given your feelings in other threads on marginalized groups, I thought you might take it to heart and understand that not everyone is coming from the same place you are.
     
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    Have you thought how your words impact a person abused by a shrink?
    No one asked my advice and I am not offering it. But don't deny my truth.
     
  3. donkiez

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    I apologize for whatever experience you had that you are referring to. I also apologize for upsetting or offending you in any way. I am going to stand firm in that advising anyone in anyway to take a walk rather than seeking trained professional help is not helpful or responsible. I probably misunderstood you and if I did I also apologize. My only goal here is to dissociate some of the general negative stigma associated with therapy and I am not trying to deny your truth. Therapy has been incredibly helpful for me but I have also had therapist that were not very helpful. I generally like and agree with you but it is obvious we have had very different experiences and will not see eye to eye on this. I was hoping this thread would be a place we all could openly discuss issues and help each other rather than arguing. I will leave it at that and don't wish to pursue this conversation any more.
     
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    Like I said, I am not advising anyone as my advice was not requested. I speak for me.
     
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    Careful. They’ve saved some of our lives. A morning walk and a pet doesn’t cure my mental illness.
     
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    But you did not say “I have a low opinion of the shrinks I’ve gone to.” You said “I have a low opinion of shrinks” which is thoughtless, insensitive, and dangerous. As I said, they’ve saved people’s lives, my own included.
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    When I said morning walk and Lucia does more for me than a shrink I thought I made it clear I was speaking of myself, not others.

    This topic is by definition subjective. It's not physics where force equals mass times acceleration whether we like it or not. What is true for one is not necessarily true for others.

    I have been told my words are insensitive, discourage others from help (I have that much influence?), I should watch what I say, etc. The reverse doesn't seem to be true.

    I signed on this morning planning to tell my truth of abuse and how a shrink brought me a fraction of an inch to suicide. How she took advantage of a time when I was in deep despair to try to destroy me. How many years it took, including leaving Portland minus most possessions, with two cats, no job, no money, to rebuild my life. Now I find I just can't do it.

    This discussion has brought a lot of trauma back to me. Not because others say a shrink helped them, that is their truth. But because I have been denied my truth.

    Now if you will excuse me the litter box needs cleaning.
     
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Nobody has "denied you your truth". The only thing that has been denied is your generalization of an entire group based on your admittedly valid experience with a small subset therein.
     
  11. KingSpeed

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    If you had just said “I had a bad experience with a shrink,” it would’ve been fine. No offense. But “I have a low opinion of shrinks” is insensitive.
     
  12. Chris Craig

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    I don't find it insensitive. I see a therapist and what she said doesn't offend me. That's her take, her experience. I and I take it you and others on here have had good experiences with "shrinks". I find it repulsive someone in that field abused their power and used it for bad, to agonize a patient. I know that's not the only case of it either. I have heard at least another and I'm sure there are many others.

    While most have a pleasant and even healing experience when it comes to shrinks, it's important to grasp and accept that others have had the opposite experience.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    When did it become so acceptable to use phrases like “makes me want to kill myself” to express displeasure in a situation?

    Sometimes I feel like I’m the bad guy for being bothered by how acceptable it seems to be in society. Coworkers jokingly saying this in regards to job disdain. I don’t wear a T-Shirt that says “I’m a second hand suicide survivor” so I realize nobody knows that they are making those comments to someone who’s life has been marred by it.

    Just really gets to me sometimes.

    What a total conundrum really. Not a situation which I feel should be taken in jest. You never know what other people have gone through. I think it just shows a lack of life experience and maybe some immaturity. Maybe it’s just PTSD I deal with, but I don’t really think I’m “making a big deal out of it”.
     
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    Agree with you. And I hope not off topic to add saying you were "raped" when your favorite team loses a game.
     
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    Or in any situation to imply something negative, or oddly sometimes positively. Something I’ve seen popular in the online video game community.

    I don’t think it’s off topic at all, I think the two are relatable.
     
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    same. the struggle is real!
     
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    I appreciate your perspective on this matter. Comparing sports losses to serious issues like sexual assault can be a delicate topic. It's crucial to exercise sensitivity and ensure that discussions remain respectful and considerate, especially when dealing with such sensitive subjects.
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  18. Chris Craig

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    It's melodramatic pompousness. It's quite insensitive. One should never joke about killing oneself to express displeasure of trivial things. As someone who has dealt personally with suicide (my brother committed suicide when I was young) I understand how it can be taken offensively. One shouldn't make light of those things. A lot of people are having real ideations as well, so it's not only insentive, it's ignorant. Awareness can save a lot of lives.
     
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  19. Chris Craig

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    Freud would have fun with this one.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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