The Word On Darko...

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  1. pchotsauce twin

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "slamduncan21":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">Nah....a guy that has yet to make the ECF..does not own the east...</div>

    you dont have to make the ECF to own the east, were talking about best player not postseason record. and not one player in the east comes close to tmac in overall skill.</div>
    haha. it doesnt matter what kind of skills he's got if his team cant make it out of the first round in the frickin EASTERN conference.</div>

    could you do better?</div>

    WTF? he is a fan..not a player....the fact mcgrady can't get out of round one in the east is just plain sad..

    Also kidd....two straight finals appearances....i would rather have him on my team than mcgrady..who gives you dunks..flash and points...but nothing else</div>

    The Fact that you are not realizing or accepting that he only had Gooden and Giricek for a little less than half of the season. You are not accepting the fact that they were an 8 seed this past year and a 7 seed last. I laugh at the notion of posters dissing an entire conference because they are not as good as the West. You are still playing basketball at the highest level in the world. So I laugh at you for thinking its sweet or a pushover. Also you realize Tmac did have the Pistons up 3-1. The better team obviously won, but really your immaturity shows when you post statements like those
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">Kidd is the better allround player..he makes his team-mates better...that to me makes someone better...but hey thats just me...kidd is so good he doesn't have to score...i was actually winding you up most of the thread...so i thought i might as continue it....

    damn..this thread has been ruined</div>

    You sort of did that yourself

    Actually no....this topic was about darko....no about mcgrady..i didn't carry this off...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "slamduncan21":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "truemaster14":</div><div class="quote_post">if you cant play better than someone you cant talk down to them.</div>
    anyone in the nba can play better than i can. they should be able to school a 5'10" 14 year old girl for gods sake. that doesnt stop me from comparing them and their skills to other guys in the nba and deciding what i think of their talent</div>



    LOL your 14 and think you can evaluate talent????? hahahahaha thats pretty funny
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Fact that you are not realizing or accepting that he only had Gooden and Giricek for a little less than half of the season. </div>

    [​IMG] other superstars with less talent did better..AI in 2001...KG with the wolves..in the tough west.....kidd did it....e.t.c



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> laugh at the notion of posters dissing an entire conference because they are not as good as the West</div>

    Go ahead laugh..but the west is alot stronger....east is rather weak comparing them..the 7th seed jazz would of been the 2nd seed for godsake

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You are still playing basketball at the highest level in the world</div>

    [​IMG] don't give me that crap...

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">but really your immaturity shows when you post statements like those</div>

    immaturity? [​IMG] the statements i made were true.....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "pchotsauce twin":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">What east big man can handle a player with darko's size? or skills? there are no other good east forwards darko will have a problem with...

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">he would hafta pass JO, Jkidd, AI, TMAC, Big Ben, and more</div>

    since when are kidd,AI,t-mac forwards?...</div>

    So right here you are saying hes better than JO right now, because in your next post you say Oneal dissappears in big games which is NOT true, so I guess every game with Darko according to your logic will be big games and JO will disappear. LOL</div>

    Where did i say he was better than JO? darko is not better right now...but he could be who knows.......and yes JO does dissapear in big games...playoffs last two years prove that one.He is a very good player but he isn't clutch..

    And where in this quote did i say he was better than JO?</div>

    I dont think you watched this past postseason to say that. Clutch is a very saturated term. He hadnt been in a position to be clutch. The day 22.8 Pts, 17.5rbds, 3blks, dissapearing I want to do it every time.
     
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    Where was in late in games? when pacers needed a basket..game 1 was a good example.
     
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    [quote name='"allnet"']<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Fact that you are not realizing or accepting that he only had Gooden and Giricek for a little less than half of the season. </div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] other superstars with less talent did better..AI in 2001...KG with the wolves..in the tough west.....kidd did it....e.t.c</div>

    Ok, I really know you dont really know what you are talking about now. AI in 2001 had the MVP in AI, a healthy Eric Snow, 6th man of the year in Aaron Mckie, The Defensive player of the year in Mutombo but Tmac had the better team OK. The Nets last year and this year had the Better TEAM. KIDD,Jefferson,Van Horn,Kittles,Martin. A good bench. Really I dont think you know what you are talking about.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> laugh at the notion of posters dissing an entire conference because they are not as good as the West</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Go ahead laugh..but the west is alot stronger....east is rather weak comparing them..the 7th seed jazz would of been the 2nd seed for godsake</div>

    Read please read, I said the West was a stronger conference. Also you dont know this for fact that the Jazz would have beaten the 2nd seed which is the Nets, so useless random comments dont apply here.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You are still playing basketball at the highest level in the world</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] don't give me that crap...</div>

    Nice comeback. I've been reading alot of your posts and I see a bunch of comments like these.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">but really your immaturity shows when you post statements like those</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">immaturity? [​IMG] the statements i made were true.....</div>

    Really they werent. No solid proof and or back-up. But I have in mine. Dont worry about
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">Where was in late in games? when pacers needed a basket..game 1 was a good example.</div>

    I'm glad that you bought that up. If you remember game one you would know how that in those last 2 minutes of the game the announcers were going crazy because Indiana's PG's were not able to get JO the ball. I guess thats his fault too. But you should realize he is the one that got them back in game one too.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok, I really know you dont really know what you are talking about now. AI in 2001 had the MVP in AI, a healthy Eric Snow, 6th man of the year in Aaron Mckie, The Defensive player of the year in Mutombo but </div>

    I said more talent....they played better as a team because of AI.....snow was good but never a great shooter...knew his role..and was just a role player..mckie was a good bench player....but magic have some good shooters.....that NBA has changed sicne then..that team wasn't all that talented..it was AI than made them look really good..he had an amazing season...the nets players you kidd to get shots for them..most of them can't create their own shots...



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Also you dont know this for fact that the Jazz would have beaten the 2nd seed which is the Nets</div>

    Check the records..jazz had the same amount of wins as the 2nd seed nets..49

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Nice comeback. I've been reading alot of your posts and I see a bunch of comments like these.

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    It a stupid thing to say oh "You are still playing basketball at the highest level in the world" this is the NBA....and a league that has two conferences..one alot stronger than the other....who cares if this is the highest level....there is still a big difference in the conferences and teams

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    Really they werent. No solid proof and or back-up. But I have in mine. Dont worry about</div>

    About T-mac yes they were...depends what comments you were on about
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "pchotsauce twin":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post">Where was in late in games? when pacers needed a basket..game 1 was a good example.</div>

    I'm glad that you bought that up. If you remember game one you would know how that in those last 2 minutes of the game the announcers were going crazy because Indiana's PG's were not able to get JO the ball. I guess thats his fault too. But you should realize he is the one that got them back in game one too.</div>

    It was PP who took over that game..Pacers should never of lost the lead in the first place..alot of pressure was on his shoudlers over the year before against the nets when he got owned by martin....he couldn't carry his team to the 2nd round..there was no reason why pacers should of lost to the celtics..

    Anyways..you can have your view on this and so can I..this thread was suppose to be about the media's thoughts on darko...if it goes off board anymore i will have to lock it :roll:
     
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    [quote name='"allnet"']<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok, I really know you dont really know what you are talking about now. AI in 2001 had the MVP in AI, a healthy Eric Snow, 6th man of the year in Aaron Mckie, The Defensive player of the year in Mutombo but </div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I said more talent....they played better as a team because of AI.....snow was good but never a great shooter...knew his role..and was just a role player..mckie was a good bench player....but magic have some good shooters.....that NBA has changed sicne then..that team wasn't all that talented..it was AI than made them look really good..he had an amazing season...the nets players you kidd to get shots for them..most of them can't create their own shots...</div>

    Show me The Orlando Magic's last 2 seasons team Roster and you do the math, its not even funny and I dont even see why you are trying to compare. The Magic at the end of last season didnt have more talent than 01 Sixers or 02, or 03 Nets. The teams are not even close and if you dont realize that then I dont know what to tell you. But any logical fan would take those teams over what the Magic had at the end of last season.



    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Also you dont know this for fact that the Jazz would have beaten the 2nd seed which is the Nets</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Check the records..jazz had the same amount of wins as the 2nd seed nets..49</div>

    Ok and this means what??? Those 49 wins dont mean anything in the playoffs, so what are you trying to say????

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    Nice comeback. I've been reading alot of your posts and I see a bunch of comments like these.

    </div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It a stupid thing to say oh "You are still playing basketball at the highest level in the world" this is the NBA....and a league that has two conferences..one alot stronger than the other....who cares if this is the highest level....there is still a big difference in the conferences and teams</div>

    Please tell me how its a stupid thing to say???? I made that statement in retort to you laughing at the eastern conference as if its the NBDL or something. If you check of the history of basketball there are always times when the East is dominant or the West is dominant. There has only been a few times where the 2 conferences has been level.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Really they werent. No solid proof and or back-up. But I have in mine. Dont worry about</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">About T-mac yes they were...depends what comments you were on about</div>

    No not really. You didnt provide anything
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "allnet":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "pchotsauce twin":</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='"allnet"']Where was in late in games? when pacers needed a basket..game 1 was a good example.</div>

    I'm glad that you bought that up. If you remember game one you would know how that in those last 2 minutes of the game the announcers were going crazy because Indiana's PG's were not able to get JO the ball. I guess thats his fault too. But you should realize he is the one that got them back in game one too.</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It was PP who took over that game..Pacers should never of lost the lead in the first place..alot of pressure was on his shoudlers over the year before against the nets when he got owned by martin....he couldn't carry his team to the 2nd round..there was no reason why pacers should of lost to the celtics..</div>

    Ok PP took over the game and. SO Jermaine Oneal is a PF/C so he should have to guard Paul Pierce who is a SG/SF and has the ball in his hands 80% more than JO would??? You really are making no sense. Jermaine was a beast the whole series. he got no help. And after the Celtics went up 10 with 8 minutes to go he brought them back.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyways..you can have your view on this and so can I..this thread was suppose to be about the media's thoughts on darko...if it goes off board anymore i will have to lock it :roll:</div>

    Hey go ahead and abuse your power. Lock it, Delete it. I really dont care. I'm breaking all your posts down and you dont have many comebacks for me. See ya in another thread
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Show me The Orlando Magic's last 2 seasons team Roster and you do the math, its not even funny and I dont even see why you are trying to compare. The Magic at the end of last season didnt have more talent than 01 Sixers or 02, or 03 Nets. The teams are not even close and if you dont realize that then I dont know what to tell you. But any logical fan would take those teams over what the Magic had at the end of last season. </div>

    Maybe you are right..but i don't really think that sixers team was that talented...but hey thats just me

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    Ok and this means what??? Those 49 wins dont mean anything in the playoffs, so what are you trying to say????

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    Meaning 2nd seed..i didn't mention anything about the playoffs..i stated the jazz who finished 7th in the west would of finished 2nd seed in the east..and they have to play more west teams than the nets did.

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    Please tell me how its a stupid thing to say???? I made that statement in retort to you laughing at the eastern conference as if its the NBDL or something. If you check of the history of basketball there are always times when the East is dominant or the West is dominant. There has only been a few times where the 2 conferences has been level.

    </div>

    The east is weak..west is alot stronger...i like the east because it is very tight...and this year was pretty much a toss up who could make the finals..in the west everyone knew it would be L.A or spurs....


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    No not really. You didnt provide anything</div>

    As i said it depends...on what comments you are on about..mostly i was joking and kidding around about T-mac....about the mcgrady not getting out of round one in the east is pretty bad..which it is..but he will get out of it next year though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey go ahead and abuse your power. Lock it, Delete it. I really dont care. I'm breaking all your posts down and you dont have many comebacks for me. See ya in another thread</div>

    I'm not going to...i said i might have to....but i won't..i'm making my points and replying back..you aren't breaking down anything here...you are just making me reply back with these long quotes.....and proving my point..stop thinking so highly of yourself.."Hey go ahead and abuse your power"? :roll: no...if a topic gets this off topic that has nothing to do with the subject..it should be locked...


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok PP took over the game and. SO Jermaine Oneal is a PF/C so he should have to guard Paul Pierce who is a SG/SF and has the ball in his hands 80% more than JO would??? </div>

    Where did i say he should be guarding him? JO is a PF going up against a team with no inside players at all..he should of been able to dominate them inside...he had a good series....but he didn't get them to the next round....which everyone expected him too

    But i don't even know why the hell JO is in this subject....i didn't even say darko was better than him...the whole point of this thread was abput the media's thoughts on darko...this has gone complety off topic. [​IMG]
     
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    [quote name='"allnet"']<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey go ahead and abuse your power. Lock it, Delete it. I really dont care. I'm breaking all your posts down and you dont have many comebacks for me. See ya in another thread</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not going to...i said i might have to....but i won't..i'm making my points and replying back..you aren't breaking down anything here...you are just making me reply back with these long quotes.....and proving my point..stop thinking so highly of yourself</div>

    Whatever I have, and you changed your whole tune look at your above post. You backed off your original statements. I dont need a message board to think highly of myself. I just pointed out with FACTS, where you were wrong thats all. IF I was wrong I dont have a problem admitting it.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok PP took over the game and. SO Jermaine Oneal is a PF/C so he should have to guard Paul Pierce who is a SG/SF and has the ball in his hands 80% more than JO would??? </div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Where did i say he should be guarding him? JO is a PF going up against a team with no inside players at all..he should of been able to dominate them inside...he had a good series....but he didn't get them to the next round....which everyone expected him too</div>

    You didnt but the tone of your post and some of the things you said made it seem like it was his fault. Yes Boston has no power players and he did dominate them inside. ok. Actually lock this up because we have gone way off topic.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Whatever I have, and you changed your whole tune look at your above post</div>

    No i have stuck with what i believe...but i was going over the top in some things mentioned...i admit that..

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I just pointed out with FACTS, where you were wrong thats all. IF I was wrong I dont have a problem admitting it.
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    And the facts about the sixers..i said you were right with that....but alot of things in here are opinions..not facts...

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    You didnt but the tone of your post and some of the things you said made it seem like it was his fault. Yes Boston has no power players and he did dominate them inside. ok. Actually lock this up because we have gone way off topic.</div>

    Sorry if you thought i was saying something else...JO had a good series...he is a very good up and coming player..and a elite PF.....you made our points and i have made mine.
     

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