2004-2005 Roy: Ben Gordon!

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  1. yangyang42

    yangyang42 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Okawho? Loul Daanngg?? HS kiddss? nahh...

    BEN GORDON for ROY. I think it's gonna be him.

    What do you guys think?

    <font color="Blue">In the future please add reasons for why you select someone/recommend them. It doesn't take a genious to point out a name. It takes a true basketball minded person to point out reasons for. By posting stuff like this you give off the impression that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.-Hunter</font>
     
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    Im not much on ben gordon being a high pick like in the top ten my guess is hel get in maybe like the 15 pick that is my guess because the eastern conference lots will get high picks and they lack big men also wit ben gordon wat about devin harris all i can is for us badger fans he better not leave his junior year because he needs to build up some more muscle.
     
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    If Emeka Okafor is drafted by the Magic and starts for them he should be the Rookie of the Year.
     
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    Emeka will be a high pick but Gordon should stay at UConn for another year...he's not ready...physically he is but his game still needs work...if u ask me...
     
  5. Shard

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    I'll throw up a dark horse and say Kirk Snyder of Nevada (if he goes). He doesn't get alot of attention by playing in the WAC but he's been consistent throughout his entire college career and he shined on a national stage in the tournament.
     
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    How about Nelson. Does he have a chance of ROY?
     
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    Nelson could but it depends on how he adjusts since he's so little...will he be a T.J. Ford or a Jason Kidd...there's a good chance he'll succeed so he's a candidate imo
     
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    Okafor definitly has a good chance at ROY, Gordon also does, I think the raptors will draft either him or Jameer, that rookie will be starting next year and get lots of minutes. That person definitly has a chance to succeed being in the easy east and playing with a good group of players.
     
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    I really don't see Jameer Nelson as a TJ Ford or Jason Kidd. The only reason you compare him to TJ Ford is because of size. There games do not resemble each other really. TJ Ford is a pass first guard. Jameer is a scoring guard. I could see him as a poor mans Stephon Marbury. Jason Kidd? Come on. Jason Kidd has incredible court vision, plays good defense, and is a great rebounder. Not to mention he is about 6 inches taller than Nelson. I don't think Jameer will be a star, but a decent player.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting STCBBall3:</div><div class="quote_post">I really don't see Jameer Nelson as a TJ Ford or Jason Kidd. The only reason you compare him to TJ Ford is because of size. There games do not resemble each other really. TJ Ford is a pass first guard. Jameer is a scoring guard. I could see him as a poor mans Stephon Marbury. Jason Kidd? Come on. Jason Kidd has incredible court vision, plays good defense, and is a great rebounder. Not to mention he is about 6 inches taller than Nelson. I don't think Jameer will be a star, but a decent player.</div>

    I compare to TJ Ford more cuz of size...and Nelson has the same abilities as Kidd pretty much...he has great courtvision...the games don't lie...he can rebound when needed...again the games don't lie....and he plays like he's taller than what he is...that is why i respect him as a Kidd-type player...
     
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    About Ben Gordon, I think his game is ready. He is easily one of the best overall players in the entire nation, if not the best. He can finish around the hoop and might be the best shooter in the nation. Only ones that might be better are Tony Bobbit outta Cinci and Delonte West from St. Joes. So, I don't think there is any question in my mind that his game is ready. But, I don't know if he is physically or mentall ready. The NBA is a lot more phyiscal than the NCAA and that's what I'm not sure if he's ready for.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">About Ben Gordon, I think his game is ready. He is easily one of the best overall players in the entire nation, if not the best. He can finish around the hoop and might be the best shooter in the nation. Only ones that might be better are Tony Bobbit outta Cinci and Delonte West from St. Joes. So, I don't think there is any question in my mind that his game is ready. But, I don't know if he is physically or mentall ready. The NBA is a lot more phyiscal than the NCAA and that's what I'm not sure if he's ready for.</div>
    Don't forget about J.J Redick for the best shooters in the nation.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Shard07:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't forget about J.J Redick for the best shooters in the nation.</div>

    Yea, I'm completely forgot about him. He is definitely up there. But, he has really struggled in the tourney with his shot. Especially compared to Gordon. No one in the tourney has been quite as good as him. He's having a tourney quite like Juan Dixon had a couple years ago. Basically unstoppable for the most part.
     
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    I dont think Nelson is a T.J. Ford at all, or a Kidd. I think he could have a solid career and maybe even break out year in the All-Star game. I think of him having to be on a team like St.Joes. He might be one of those players who just needs to be on a shooting/speed team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting pchotsauce:</div><div class="quote_post">I compare to TJ Ford more cuz of size...and Nelson has the same abilities as Kidd pretty much...he has great courtvision...the games don't lie...he can rebound when needed...again the games don't lie....and he plays like he's taller than what he is...that is why i respect him as a Kidd-type player...</div>

    Jameer Nelson's court vision is no where near a Jason Kidd, or even LeBron James in my opinion. He can rebound when needed...? Yeah, against other small players. He is a good rebounder for his size, but in the overall picture of things, like the NBA, he really won't get that many rebounds. He will need to work on his jumper. I don't know how good he will from the NBA three. He is a real good penetrator, and has good strenght, so that helps him alot
     
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    Okafor : Too small, he might be another Boozer in a few years, I just don't think his numbers will be good his first year.

    Gordon, Nelson, Telfair, etc : This is the year of the PG, but I doubt many of them will start right away. There are only a handful of teams that need a PG and a lot are probably going to fill that spot with a trade (Iverson, Andre Miller, Crawford) or sign Nash. So it'll depend on WHO picks them.

    Biedrins, Podkolzine, Perovic, etc : The foreigners are again going to be all over the NBA lottery. I have NO idea about any of these guys except what I read on NBA websites and hear on the TV/radio. So my only comment is, it's going to be hard for most foreigners to jump into the NBA and make an impact right away, Nowitzki didn't even do it.

    Howard, Smith, Telfair, etc : Unless these High Schoolers are anything like LeBron or Amare, they aren't going to start let along be RoY. I'm hearing a lot of them may go to college, but who knows. Also except for Howard, I hear none of these guys are really even ready to jump to the NBA. So unless Howard gets on the right team and catches on like Amare did, no High Schooler should be RoY this year.

    I'm already tired of writing about this so I'll just put who I think :P

    Andre Iguodala : If he gets into the right situation (Philly w/o Iverson, Chicago w/o Eddie Robinson, Charlotte) and can actually get playing time, he should score quite a bit, and he's very athletic so the amount of time he'll spend on ESPN's TOP 10 plays alone should get him the award [​IMG] He's a pretty good defender, his down-side is he can't shoot very well. He's got an NBA body especially for being a guard -- this is kind of a stretch I know, and I hate to pick of a U of A guy, but at this time he's who I have to go for...
     
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    Emeka Okafor will be ROY, mark my words.
     
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    Personally I think it'll be Howard.
     
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    if i knew more about howard id say him but all ive heard and seen is the next kg in the making... emeka iwll struggle with size, but if im not mistaken he is taller than brand and k-mart, but will be a combination of the two.... "a physcial beast who explodes to the basket"

    but deng will stay for another year if not all 4 years....

    but emeka gets my pick...
     
  20. STC

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    I don't think Emeka will be ROY. He will be playing PF in the NBA. He doesn't have an incredible offensive game. His outside jumper is not where it should be, and his post moves are not anything special. He cannot shoot free throws. The NBA is loaded with talented PF. KG, TD, Rasheed, Jermaine, Malone, I could keep going, these guys all have outside jumpers, and Emeka will have to go against these guys every night, and all of them can lock you down.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Unless these High Schoolers are anything like LeBron or Amare, they aren't going to start let along be RoY. I'm hearing a lot of them may go to college, but who knows. Also except for Howard, I hear none of these guys are really even ready to jump to the NBA. So unless Howard gets on the right team and catches on like Amare did, no High Schooler should be RoY this year.</div>

    Honestly, Howard could use a year of college too. I have seen him 3 times (once at ABCD camp, once on ESPN vs Randolph Morris, and in the McDonalds All American game) and he isn't overly impressive. He is a nice young player, but he isn't on the level of Amare, and certainly not LeBron.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gordon, Nelson, Telfair, etc : This is the year of the PG, but I doubt many of them will start right away. There are only a handful of teams that need a PG and a lot are probably going to fill that spot with a trade (Iverson, Andre Miller, Crawford) or sign Nash. So it'll depend on WHO picks them.</div>

    Yeah, there are some good PGs, and Gordon is probably the best. He can step in right away and contribute. He needs to work on being a PG, but his offensive game is there. Gordon has alot of explosiveness and can really penetrate. He can knock down jumpers off the dribble and catch and shoot. If he were 6'5" and up, even 6'4", then he would play SG, and do a great job, but at 6'2" I don't see it happening, unless they want to have a Jason Terry type guy.

    Now Andre Iguodala has a real nice all around game. He can probably play the 2 in the NBA, and his great athleticism really helps him. If he is in the right situation, and gets to play 30 plus minutes, he could easily be the rookie of the year, and put up 14 ppg, 5 rpg and 5 apg if things go well. His defense will let him play more minutes also. He will not be a liabitly like alot of rookies are on the defensive side of the ball.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">but deng will stay for another year if not all 4 years....</div>

    I doubt Deng stays 4 years. I think he will be gone after next year.

    But, if Gordon goes somewhere where he can play alot of minutes, then I think he will win ROY, but not many teams will take him and start him.
     

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