<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Fundamentals:</div><div class="quote_post">As much as I love him, I think T-mac is a tad bit overrated in my opinion. He is one ofmy favourite players but people seem to overrate him. In terms of his stats, i obviously think he is amazing, but for a guy 6'8/9' he should be rebounding much more and he should work on the defense because at times he is a lazy defender.</div> And he jacks up WAY to many jumpers to be effective. With his athletic ability he should be trying to get to the hoop more and 1. get a layup 2. get a teammate a layup 3. get fouled.
Draft picks shouldn't be a gauge if the rookie is overrated. Usually, it's a case of what the team needs, not who's the better player. Some teams will pass up on better players because they don't need them. Like when a team badly needs a Center, they'll draft the best Center in the draft eventhough there's a PG who's way better than the best Center. My point, the Pistons didn't need Bosh or Carmelo. They need a project player who can deliver 2-3 years from now. That's why they drafted Darko. Now if you're Darko and you'll be banging bodies with Ben, Memo, Corliss and the likes, you can almost be sure that this lil project of the Pistons will reap benefits for them in the long run. Oh and they passed up on Melo because they have Tayshaun. They passed up on Bosh for obvious reasons.
Agreed...I don't know why you would consider Darko overrated, especially given that the Detroit Pistons drafted him with the intent of developing him 2-3 years down the road. Now if the Pistions drafted him thinking he could make an immediate impact then you could make a case for him being overrated. Nobody had high expectations for Milicic coming into this season, everybody knew he wasn't going to play a lot of minutes, even if he did play well in practice. So how can he be overrated?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting I3:</div><div class="quote_post"> I think most of you guys might disagree with me putting Peja on that list. But honestly, if you look at Peja's game. All he could do is shoot. He cant pass. At his height he should be grabbing more boards. He could be a MUCH better defender. And he cant even make a lay-up. Some people might think that Peja should get MVP. But Peja is no lMVP nor is he a leader. He's just surrounded with a bunch of talented guys. Like Bibby, Brad Miller, Jackson etc... The reason why everyone is giving him so much credit is because of his deadly shot, leads his team in PPG and his team has a GREAT record. Thats it. Im a Peja fan. And he's one of my Top 5 favorite players. But he is overated IMO.</div> I understand your point, if you think like that you should add Shaq to your list, i mean this guy made 100% of his shots in the paint, can't make a J, and and we talk about shaq much more than peja.. so
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I understand your point, if you think like that you should add Shaq to your list, i mean this guy made 100% of his shots in the paint, can't make a J, and and we talk about shaq much more than peja.. so</div> How can I add Shaq? Look how big Shaq is. And on top of that Shaq is a CENTER he dosent belong around the perimeter, that what Center's do. They stay in the paint. Would you want your center running around screens all day and taking 20 foot jumpers? Shaq belongs in the paint. Thats where he does all of his damage. But Peja on the other can only shoot the ball. When he is capable of doing so MUCH more.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting I3:</div><div class="quote_post">How can I add Shaq? Look how big Shaq is. And on top of that Shaq is a CENTER he dosent belong around the perimeter, that what Center's do. They stay in the paint. Would you want your center running around screens all day and taking 20 foot jumpers? Shaq belongs in the paint. Thats where he does all of his damage. But Peja on the other can only shoot the ball. When he is capable of doing so MUCH more.</div> i disagree on that, i mean peja is a shooting forward so he have to shoot the ball (65% of his pts are j's) .. i agree that he could do so much more but he don't need to, miller,webb divac are there to take rebounds and bibby and DC are there to pass the ball and peja is there to score.. and he can average a 8 rebs.. shaq on the other hand , the lakers is HIS team, so he have to rebound and scrore and play some D, besides kobe he's the only one on his team.. (forgettin malone and gp .. anyway).. hope u will understand
re yeah this year, but i talk about the last 2,3 years, 'caus a guy can't get overrated in a single year.. well yeah Lebron James...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">I know what you're saying by him shooting so much. My arms hurt sometimes when I watch him. But I don't think he's overrated. U know who is overrated? Calvin Booth making 5.6 mil and Lebron makes 4 mil. Watz up wit dat?</div> LeBron James is a rookie. No rookie makes a lot right of the bat... His next contract will be massive however.
have to shoot the ball (65% of his pts are j's) .. i agree that he could do so much more but he don't need to, miller,webb divac are there to take rebounds and bibby and DC are there to pass the ball and peja is there to score.. and he can average a 8 rebs.. shaq on the other hand , the lakers is HIS team, so he have to rebound and scrore and play some D, besides kobe he's the only one on his team.. (forgettin malone and gp .. anyway).. hope u will understand[/QUOTE] Why are you even trying to use Shaq in this argument? These guys are the most opposite in the game. Like I3 said Shaq is a big man who is supposed to be in the paint taking up room. He does what is necessary, can defend and can pass very well for a big guy. Paja is the only King I like so I don't like to be negative about him but like I3 said he really can't rebound, defend at all, or pass. I guess I could understand the lack of rebounds with all the guys inside, but on the offensive end all your big men like to stand outside so he really should be taking advantage and going inside more. On the defensive end he might be as bad as Glen Rice in his early days..
im not sayin that shaq is overrated, i don't he's overrated because he's a good player, but I3 said taht peja was overrated because he can ONLY shoot.. so i said, if peja is overrated shaq should be too (they're both not overrated).. peja is only shooting, shaq is always in the paint.. that's my point
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">.. i agree that he could do so much more but he don't need to, miller,webb divac are there to take rebounds and bibby and DC are there to pass the ball and peja is there to score.. and he can average a 8 rebs..</div> Well first of all. Divac is REAL close to retirement. Webber isnt the same Webber since that injury. After he got booed at Arco there's been rumors of him leaving Sacramento. I doubt he leave. But I wouldnt be surprised if he left maybe by the end of next season. But aside from that Peja is basically spoiled. Miller, Jackson, Bibby etc.. wont be along his side forever. And once Peja is on his own. He's done for. He dosent have leadership qualities. He's not athletic. And like I said before..All he can do is........SHOOT. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">im not sayin that shaq is overrated, i don't he's overrated because he's a good player, but I3 said taht peja was overrated because he can ONLY shoot.. so i said, if peja is overrated shaq should be too (they're both not overrated).. peja is only shooting, shaq is always in the paint.. that's my point</div> Lol. Centers such as Shaq are SUPPOSED to stay in the paint. That's where they do their damage. But Peja is a SF. He's suppose to do so much more. Take Pierce for example. Yeah he play's the 2 spot. But he also play's the 3. But not only can he shoot. He can pass and rebound. He's also an average defender. He's a perfect example of a SF. Once those great players that surround Peja leaves Sac-Town. Or if Peja is gets traded some how he's done for.
the reason peja is good is not just because of his marksmanship... there are plenty of "3 point specialists" who are nowhere near peja's caliber as a player (nor even just as a 3 point shooter)... for instance peja can pull up and stop on a dime and nail the midrange shot as well, while many "pure shooters" need to be set and have the play designed for them to have an open look
To say Andrei Kirelenko is overrated just because was voted to the Allstar team is beyond ridiculous. The COACHES voted him to that team, not the fans. 80% of basketball fans probably never even heard of the guy. The fact is this guy is one of the most underrated players in the league, particularly on the defensive end. He has been the best player on perhaps the biggest surprise team in the league this year.
When you guys think of overrated, do you mean like over hyped by the media or just get hyped up by everyone and just flop in a game? I really don't think anyone is overrated in sports because thats just one's opinion.
what am i reading??? carmello? ak47?? maggette??? how can anyone call these guys overrated? first of all, carmello should be co-rookie of the year, besides his numbers, hes brough exciting ball to denver, and been the major factor in putting them in playoff contention. kiralenko may not score 22ppg, but there is a LOT more to bball then scoring, and he can do it all. plus hes still really young, and it wont be long before hes putting in an extra couple baskets. maggette's putting up 20, 6 and 3 and shooting just under .50%. he goes to the rack ALL the time, and isnt afraid of any contact. hes FIRST in the nba in free throws, that says it all. no one ever really talks about him, so whos overrating him? hes a SOLID player, who puts up 20 points a night and strong off the glass for an off-guard. HARDLY overrated i think t-mac is a little overrated. hes a great talent and no one can question that, but hes not a good leader, a cry baby, and pretty immature.
I agree and disagree with Premium Plus on that post he made. Corey Maggette is rarely mentioned and he plays so well OFFENSIVELY. I disagree with the T-Mac part. Anyone who calls him a leader is a fool. His game is on point though, he lead the league in scoring last season and I believe he's doing it again despite his injury. He even dropped 62 on the Wizards. The bad thing about that is that the game was still in the 10 or 12 point range.
I think the most overrated player in the league is Shaq they say he is the most domninant player yet sits out with a baby toe injury. With the money he is making you would think he wouldnt be as soft as he is.
