Ivan Chiriaev Pulling Out Of Draft?

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  1. Streetball2k5

    Streetball2k5 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Russian-Canadian Ivan Chiriaev has reportedly pulled out of the 2004 NBA Draft, I don't know if this is true but I saw it on a trustable Television Station. I bet he's pulling out because everyone saw how bad he is in the All Canadian All Star Game.
     
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    He was pretty bad, but thats no reason to go out of the draft. Ivan Chairev(sp?) could be a great role player in the NBA if not better but not at gaurd the only thing he could do is post.
     
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    He is to slow to be a guard and is not good enough with his foot work to play the post, this guy will be a bust. I dont think he will even be a role player. 7'1 talent wasted...
     
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    good idea, he can develop more and get some experience in college, it'll do him so good
     
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    Here's the official story:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> TORONTO (AP) -- Canadian high school basketball star Ivan Chiriaev removed his name from the NBA draft and will likely try to play professionally in Europe.

    The 7-foot-1 Chiriaev proclaimed the NBA ``needs'' him when he announced in March he was applying for the draft. </div>

    Full Article:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-c...ov=ap&type=lgns
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting _EcLiPsE_:</div><div class="quote_post">good idea, he can develop more and get some experience in college, it'll do him so good</div>
    He signed an agent so that is not possible at all. I suspect he's headed back to Europe to develope his horrible game. I don't foresee him in the NBA at any point during his life.
     
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    smart move. he wouldnt have been drafted and he would have MAYBE gotten a non-guaranteed contract. its good for him to go to europe and develop skills and make a little bit of cash too!

    interesting how he says he would be a top 5 pick and then he pulls himself out of the draft.
     
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    This guy is actually stupid to have withdrawn. This is actually the best opportunity for him to make the NBA and get a contract. Now he goes to Europe and most likely won't declare again.
     
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    ^^You are right. There might have been a team stupid enough to take him. I don't think he is good enough to be an NBA player but you never know what the GM's are thinking. Now if he goes to Europe I don't think he will ever have a shot at being drafted again.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">This guy is actually stupid to have withdrawn. This is actually the best opportunity for him to make the NBA and get a contract. Now he goes to Europe and most likely won't declare again.</div>
    r u saying he will be drafted first round? because second round picks dont get guaranteed contracts. same goes for undrafted players.

    btw, even IF he gets drafted in the first round somehow, or somehow lands a guaranteed contract, he will be out of the league in a year. plus, he wouldnt get playing time either.

    playing in europe is best for him. he will get an opportunity to develop his skills and come into the draft with a fresh start.
     
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    since he hired an agent and all, i think he might try and play in the euroleague first. i guess the nba doesn't want or need him right now
     
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    Somebody please explain to me, what's the point of withdrawing from the draft when you can't go to college because you have hired an agent?
    IMO, he should have stayed in the draft, he might have had a small possibility of being drafted with a real low pick... I mean.. Remon van de Hare also got drafted... and he can't play ball either...
    If not picked up, he always could've gone to Europe...
     
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    I agree. He should've stayed in the draft. When he plays in Europe first, his flaws will be shown even more against professionals. People are now noticing that he's a bust, he should've taken advantage the fact that there are still a few guys willing to take a shot. But that's just me.
     
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    the compnay he signed for agency is stupic. He probably puts too much trust in them.

    He shoulda stayed int he draft, and even if nothing good happens, he could still play in Europe.

    I guess the NBA really needed Chiriaev.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting harry_balls5:</div><div class="quote_post">r u saying he will be drafted first round? because second round picks dont get guaranteed contracts. same goes for undrafted players.

    btw, even IF he gets drafted in the first round somehow, or somehow lands a guaranteed contract, he will be out of the league in a year. plus, he wouldnt get playing time either.

    playing in europe is best for him. he will get an opportunity to develop his skills and come into the draft with a fresh start.</div>
    Yes, I think his potential alone is good for at least a 20th-30th pick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, I think his potential alone is good for at least a 20th-30th pick.</div>
    I don't even think he would go that high. His stock has dropped dramatically after the All star dissapointment so to choose him that high would be wasting a pick that can be used more wisely.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't even think he would go that high. His stock has dropped dramatically after the All star dissapointment so to choose him that high would be wasting a pick that can be used more wisely.</div>
    I don't see why a team with nothing to lose will not pick this guy, especially the Pacers. Big men are a luxury to have, after all.
     
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    ^I can agree with that. But what I mean is that there are enough players out there that should be drafted before this guy. You know you can't waste a first round pick on this kid after seeing that game. He is not playing against Europeans, he is playing against Canadian high school kids and struggling. Even the scouts were pissed at how bad he was.

    Can I see him being taken with the very last pick of the draft? Yes but only if he's lucky.
     
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    I am tired of these overrated European players. Milicic is the living testament that the high-profile euros are plain potential. On the other hand players like Nowitzki (people thought 9th pick was sooooo high for him) who come low profile but with solid euro career (see Peja) become stars. Milicis averaged under 10. This should have been an obvious sign of a BUST.
     
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    The Russian league WANTS Ivan Chiriaev the Russian League NEEDS Ivan Chiraiev!
     

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