This is not my trade idea and the words below are not even my words, but I just want to know what others think about it. I wont give my personal opinoins on this because I dont want to created any baises, but Im just curious as to what others think. Is this a fair trade? NY/Tor Trade Apparently my previous deal wasn't attractive enough for Toronto New offer KT, Frank Williams for Marshall/Moiso Why Toronto does it? Marshall is a quality player but he is more suited for PF where they have Bosh. Yes Marshall played C last yr but KT is a better fit should they decide to go with an undersized C. Also if the Raptors sign a FA big man like Foyle, Kurt Thomas can be valuable off the bench. Frank Williams is very attractive as he brings much needed help at PG. Why New York does it? Marshall. Plain and simple. He would make a good addition to this team. I like his versatility and array of skills. Put him at SF and he would make a nice compliment to the bruising play of Sweetney. Tim Thomas moves to the bench and becomes an immediate stellar 6th man, a role he thrived in with the Bucks. Moiso is additional depth and athleticism off the bench
Where's the source for this? Sounds good to me, KT is a pretty big man, with a pretty big game. I'd miss Marshall's killer offense though, we should get rid of Mo' Pete along with him and try to get someone better. At least Bosh would be able to play in proper position this way.
I would agree with including Mo peterson in the deal. To me Kurt Thomas is too valuable to the Knicks for them to trade him straight up for Marshall, since Moiso and Williams is really as fair as you can get ( both are promising, a slight edge for Williams but Moiso is more valuable in the sense that he is a pf). Marshall is good and more versatile offesnively than Thomas but Kurt is much more of a low post presence, which the Knicks definitely need since unfortunately Deke will continue to become more and more of a non-factor. Peterson is a little superior to Anderson/Eisly whom the Knicks would presumably give in exchange, thus compensating (especially considering the fact that Houston is injury prone) for Thomas' loss.
well, first of all, marshall did play pf for the raps secondly...the raps are hardly addressing their needs down-low with this move thirdly, KT already signed an extension with the knicks during the season...they arent about to trade him away, WITH the PG in williams that they are really hyped on, that got some great playoff minutes, and did quite well with the minutes. fourthly...if the raps are going to sign a decent big man to play center, they'd be much better off bringin donyell off the bench then kurt thomas, who has been known to whine about minutes this trade makes absolutely NO sense for either team.
This trade seems NY biased, theres no source, and the Raptors don't even have a GM yet, I doubt this trade will even come close to happening. I hope whenever this new GM comes realizes that this trade is a joke because it doesn't suit the Raptors needs at all, thats basically replacing Donyell Marshall with someone worse while giving up some quality potential in Moiso.
Im sorry if I didnt make myself clear. I didnt say that this trade has been rumored, but I want to get an opinoin on the idea. Someone else suggested this to be a good deal. Me being a Knicks fan would love this deal, but I think that the Rapts would be getting the short end of the stick, so I feel its not a realistic trade. Sure the Raps do get Frank Williams who could easily start at PG for them, but they wouldnt really recover from losing a talent like Marshall and only getting Kurt Thomas in return.
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Kurt Thomas won't help our situation at all...he's undersized like everyone else on our roster, his offensive skills are questionable and to top it off he's slow which won't help if we want to play an up-tempo game (which i think the Raps are better suited to doing, instead of focusing on the half-court game and defence like this season) Also, isn't Morris Peterson a free agent? I don't think he would be iuncluded in any Raptor deals. BTW: why do people see potential in Moiso? I don't see it, he can't/won't play defence, he has no shot and he has mental lapses on the court when he doesn't feel like playing
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW: why do people see potential in Moiso? I don't see it</div> Me Either. He was absolute garbage when in Boston.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting _EcLiPsE_:</div><div class="quote_post">Kurt Thomas won't help our situation at all...he's undersized like everyone else on our roster, his offensive skills are questionable and to top it off he's slow which won't help if we want to play an up-tempo game (which i think the Raps are better suited to doing, instead of focusing on the half-court game and defence like this season)</div> agreed fully. going from donyell marshall to KT is a major step backwards <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Also, isn't Morris Peterson a free agent? I don't think he would be iuncluded in any Raptor deals. </div> restricted free agent, so a sign and trade deal is always possible <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> BTW: why do people see potential in Moiso? I don't see it, he can't/won't play defence, he has no shot and he has mental lapses on the court when he doesn't feel like playing</div> ugh...he showed a couple flashes of goodness, but mostly just stank up the court. i think there definitly IS potential there, as he's a pretty impressive athlete...i think the work ethic is in question.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">Me Either. He was absolute garbage when in Boston.</div> Yet he was taken with the 11th pick in the draft. You C's seriously need an upgrade at the GM spot. From the one who picked Moiso to Ainge...I smell bad decisions.
I like that trade as a Raptors fan. Thomas is suited to playing Center, and Bosh will flourish playing PF. Frank Williams is a solid PG off the bench and a future starter. We dont need Marshall to score because Bosh, Rose, and Carter will handle the scoring load, while Thomas is cleaning up on defense and boards. Moiso is pretty useless to us also, so the deal would be sweet.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kaillou:</div><div class="quote_post">We dont need Marshall to score because Bosh, Rose, and Carter will handle the scoring load, while Thomas is cleaning up on defense and boards.</div> I disagree...Carter, Rose, and Bosh have not shown the ability to consistently play their best ball at the same time, with each other. One game Carter would play well, but Rose would suck and vice-versa. Marshall was definately their most consistent player in terms of rebounding and points (minus the mini-slump). We need him when the others stars aren't playing well, which seems to happen more than it should. Bosh needs another year or so to develop into an outright star but until then, we need Marshall
