Whats the hold up? Just announce that they are gonna trade him and stop all this stupid madness. I really want him out, im sick of it. he's a weak player and his stock is only goin to fall. We should of traded him when we got good offers
He's weak, and Webber is you favourite player , just playing, they aren't announcing it because Vince hasn't officialy said anything, it's all been "sources".
that really sucks. vince is being a baby. so i guess this is going to become the official "vince carter trade proposal thread" here are some ideas: vince & donyell for pierce, mark blount (sign & trade) and chucky atkins? vince & donyell for baron davis, david wesley and pj brown (pj could play center) vince, lammond murray and donyell for ray allen, rashard lewis and antonio daniels? vince and lammond for matrix & joe johnson ? mad possibilities. vince isnt just a top player, he sells tickets and fills seats. teams will be willing to part with key players for vince out of those ideas...i really like the deal with new orleans. we'd have a line up like this: pg-baron sg-wesley sf-jalen pf-cb4 c - pj nice lookin team, pj could really be a mentor to bosh as well. imagine we got sam mitchell and pj both working on bosh's game? or shit...how about vince, donyell and lammond or alvin or whoever for baron and magloire?!?! jamaal comes to play for his hometeam! pg-baron sg-alvin/mo pete? sf-jalen pf-cb4 c - magloire!! just some ideas.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">vince and lammond for matrix & joe johnson ?</div> Good one, as the Suns I wouldn't agree lol, stupid Lammond. Vince, Moiso and Alvin for Larry Hughes, Jared Jefferies, Etan Thomas, Jarvis Hayes and Steve Blake (too much)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Good one, as the Suns I wouldn't agree lol, stupid Lammond. Vince, Moiso and Alvin for Larry Hughes, Jared Jefferies, Etan Thomas, Jarvis Hayes and Steve Blake (too much)</div> yea...cept too many players that dont do much. if vince is leaving, we need an impact player. a pierce, a ray allen, someone like that. wiz can keep blake, jeffries..etc. if the deal involves the wiz, gimme gilbert <div class="quote_poster">Quoting vinsanity03:</div><div class="quote_post">Whats the hold up? Just announce that they are gonna trade him and stop all this stupid madness. I really want him out, im sick of it. he's a weak player and his stock is only goin to fall. We should of traded him when we got good offers</div> lol...comming from "vinsanity03" dude...his stock is high right now...he had a relatively injury free season, and put up 22,5 and 5. he also led the nba in all star votes for yet another consecutive season. his stock is pretty high
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">yea...cept too many players that dont do much. if vince is leaving, we need an impact player. a pierce, a ray allen, someone like that. wiz can keep blake, jeffries..etc. if the deal involves the wiz, gimme gilbert</div> lol I want Gilbert too.... Vince for Gilbert Arenas, Jarvis Hayes and Ramos Vince for Arenas, Jefferies and John Ramos Vince for Arenas, Etan and Blake or Dixon
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">lol I want Gilbert too.... Vince for Gilbert Arenas, Jarvis Hayes and Ramos Vince for Arenas, Jefferies and John Ramos Vince for Arenas, Etan and Blake or Dixon</div> vince for gilbert and haywood :thumbsup: we get a center and a point guard, and hold onto donyell...now we gettin someplace pg-gilbert sg-jalen sf-donyell pf-cb4 c - haywood not bad oooh...just had another idea, how about vince and donyell for ron artest and al harrington pg-jalen/alvin ? sg-ron artest sf-al harrington pf-bosh c - ? mark blount? someone else? <font color="red">ps. shape...i see you lurkin in this thread...you better be typin your thoughts </font>
How about Vince and Alvin for Arenas, Etan and Hayes, I would be crazy happy with that, don't know about for the Wiz though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">How about Vince for Arenas, Etan and Hayes, I would be crazy happy with that.</div> you really like etan lol. i like him too...but id rather have a starting center then a bench pf. etan is just too under sized to play center, even in the east. if the raps want to be real contenders, we need an actual center. ideally if we get rid of vince's contract in a trade, we could sign someone like hudson or mark blount, and take care of one of our needs. then take care of the other need in a trade with vince. ie: sign hudson and trade vince/donyell for pierce/blount...somethin along those lines. pg-hudson sg-pierce/jalen sf-pierce/jalen pf-cb4 c - blount now THAT is a decent line up
How about two babies switching teams? The blockbuster deal would involve Vince being traded for Shaq. Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes) PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes) SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.7 minutes) SF Morris Peterson (8.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.4 apg in 26.1 minutes) PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.9 minutes) Toronto receives: C Shaquille O'Neal (21.5 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 2.9 apg in 36.8 minutes) Change in team outlook: -32.9 ppg, -12.2 rpg, and -5.9 apg. L.A. Lakers trades: C Shaquille O'Neal (21.5 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 2.9 apg in 36.8 minutes) L.A. Lakers receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games) PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games) SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games) SF Morris Peterson (8.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.4 apg in 82 games) PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 35 games) Change in team outlook: +32.9 ppg, +12.2 rpg, and +5.9 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED The Raptors do this deal to land the premiere center in the league and unload some unwanted contracts and disgruntled players. New Roster ------------ PG - A. Williams SG - Rose SF - Free Agent? PF - Bosh C - Shaq / Araujo The Lakers do this deal to add depth to their team and to get another superstar to pair with Kobe. The Lakers would have to go after more big men to fill Shaq's void, but the team would have the 1-2 punch of Kobe and Vince, hopefully meshing and becoming similar to the Jordan - Pippen duo. Lakers ----------- PG - Payton SG - Kobe SF - Carter PF - Marshall C - Moiso
I wouldn't mind seeing that Lewis/Ray Allen Trade happening... but it could be hard .... or like i said before Vince/Marshall for Redd/Mason??? ... There are so much possibilities of trading Vince.... and yes those mite be true because Carter himself made up some trading offers too.... if i have heard correctly on Sports center And For the Laker Offer.... if Someone like George was added to the deal... it would be great
yea...the more i think about it...getting ray allen and rashard for vince and donyell is a nice deal too. maybe send jalen off for some bench depth...maybe even send jalen to dallas for howard and daniels. with all those contracts gone, we could MAYBE sign hudson and blount pg-hudson sg-allen sf-rashard pf-cb4 c- blount WOOT im not so against trading vince. as long as we get good value for him, im happy. he doesnt want to be here, i dont want him here.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Actaully I do and don't (much more do than don't) blame him, he should suck it up an not be a baby, if he feels the team isn't going in the right direction then he should change it by how he plays.</div> Exactly, I said the same. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post"><u>Trade Ideas:</u> Vince for Marion and Carbakapa (Lampe, or Barbosa) Vince for Baron Davis and Tractor Traylor Vince for Joe Johnson, Barbosa and Eisley Vince for Arenas, Hayes and Dixon ????????????? Vince for Larry Hughes, Jarvis Hayes, Etan Thomas and Steve Blake or for Larry Hughes, Etan Thomas, Jarvis Hayes, and Peter John Ramos</div> I wouldn't want to do the Marion trade, mainly because we're not a fast break team, and Marion in the half-court scares me. Vince for Baron, not a bad idea, if Baron can stay healthy I'd like it. I'd do the Vince for Joe Johnson, but I'd expect our attendance to go way down, however it would give us some money. Since the Suns are signing Nash I doubt they could do it. A trade with Washington scares me a bit, but it could turn out for the better. I'd really like to see Vince traded to LA Clipps for Maggette, he leads the NBA in FT attempts per shots, which could be beneficial to us. Haha Shape - baby for baby. I'd do that trade, not only do we get a dominant force in the middle with Shaq, we could clear up some cap. It probably won't happen but Bosh and Shaq frontline would be successful.
we are getting ahead of our selves. people could of just made that he mite not really want to be traded(im praing) anyways if its not didnt the gm say he wasnt gunna trade him adn the player doesnt always get want he wants (just remebermerd that) anyways vinces stock is high the fact that HE SELLS TICKETS!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thefranchise3:</div><div class="quote_post"> Haha Shape - baby for baby. I'd do that trade, not only do we get a dominant force in the middle with Shaq, we could clear up some cap. It probably won't happen but Bosh and Shaq frontline would be successful.</div> yup :thumbsup: and throw jalen at the 3 spot, and thats a pretty decent front court. shaq's presence on the offensive side of the floor, would really free up some open looks for jalen and really help his game. if jalen gets wide open looks from mid-range you can pretty much book it. and again...with all those contracts gone, we could sign someone like hudson. pg-hudson sg-mo pete/alvin/who cares sf-jalen pf-cb4 c- diesel that front court would dominate the east. only problem..shaq would never want to play in toronto. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post">we are getting ahead of our selves. people could of just made that he mite not really want to be traded(im praing) anyways if its not didnt the gm say he wasnt gunna trade him adn the player doesnt always get want he wants (just remebermerd that) anyways vinces stock is high the fact that HE SELLS TICKETS!</div> exactly...aside from ticket sales, he just had a relatively injury free season, and put up VERY nice numbers. but your right...we are getting ahead of ourselfs. vince could meet with babcock and decide to stay
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">yea...the more i think about it...getting ray allen and rashard for vince and donyell is a nice deal too. maybe send jalen off for some bench depth...maybe even send jalen to dallas for howard and daniels. with all those contracts gone, we could MAYBE sign hudson and blount pg-hudson sg-allen sf-rashard pf-cb4 c- blount WOOT im not so against trading vince. as long as we get good value for him, im happy. he doesnt want to be here, i dont want him here.</div> Best trade in Franchise history right there^^, Ray would have to sign an extension, I'm gonna have to look up the contracts. Hudson is expected to sign with Minnesota or Utah, so count him out. Blount would be a long shot because I doubt we'd have any cap left if Ray were to come, his contract ext. could be bigger than Vince's.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">yup :thumbsup: and throw jalen at the 3 spot, and thats a pretty decent front court. shaq's presence on the offensive side of the floor, would really free up some open looks for jalen and really help his game. if jalen gets wide open looks from mid-range you can pretty much book it. and again...with all those contracts gone, we could sign someone like hudson. pg-hudson sg-mo pete/alvin/who cares sf-jalen pf-cb4 c- diesel that front court would dominate the east. only problem..shaq would never want to play in toronto. exactly...aside from ticket sales, he just had a relatively injury free season, and put up VERY nice numbers. but your right...we are getting ahead of ourselfs. vince could meet with babcock and decide to stay</div> He wouldn't have a choice. I doubt he would re-sign either, but you would have him on a two year rental and that squad would be able to get deep in the East and probably to the finals.
QUITTER! Man, can't believe this day had come... I knew it was gonna come but not NOW! Whatever, I'd like to see how the trade thing goes down, it'd be nice to see a different star on the team but come on Vince....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinsanityMK:</div><div class="quote_post">If this happens screw you Raptors, I'm becoming a Magic fan! (Francis!!!!!!!)</div> Next time add something intelligent or don't add anything at all, you should no better being a former staff member. Look at this as a business, hate the player, you can't blame the Raptors for one single player thats just being a baby.
