Quentin Richardson Agrees To Offer Sheet with Suns

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  1. mike18946

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Phoenix Suns and Los Angeles Clippers restricted free agent guard Quentin Richardson have agreed on an offer sheet that will pay the 24-year-old, fourth-year guard between $48 and $50 million, league sources told ESPN's David Aldridge."

    The contract has incentives included, the Clippers will have 15 days to match after Richardson is officially allowed to sign it. Richardson is one of the best shooting guards available in free agency and was one of the Nuggets targets. The Nuggets have pulled back in their pursuit; instead going after Kobe Bryant and Manu Ginoboli.

    Last season Clippers players Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, and Corey Maggette signed offer sheets. They matched the offers on Brand and Maggette. The Clippers may not open the checkbook this summer unless the last name of the player is Bryant.

    The Suns were originally going after Hedu Turkoglu, but he accepted an offer from the Magic today for much more money.
    If the Suns get Richardson he will be joined in the backcourt by the newest "unofficial" Sun, Steve Nash. </div>

    will clips match?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1835962
     
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    I'm going to assume this is a 6 year deal for 'Q,' this puts tremendous pressure on the Clippers to get talks going with Kobe Bryant. I'm not sure what the Suns are planning on doing with all of their guards, there has to be another trade in the works, if in fact the Clippers do not choose to match the offer.

    With the addition of Richardson the Suns would have Nash, Barbosa, Johnson, Eisley, and Jacobson. This creates an obvious log jam at the guard spot, and with the Suns lack of size, I would imagine seeing one or two players dealt to land a big man in Phoenix. Swift? Dampier? Curry?
     
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    Is Marion getting traded?
    I don't get this, what will Q-Rich be the 6th man?
    The Suns already ahve JJ and Marion at the 2 and 3, and now they're trying to get Q?

    I see a trade in the works somewhere, because it makes no sense to me.
     
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    Same, it makes no sense. ESPN tries to convince that it makes by saying that they will have one of the most deadliest Guard Combos in the league with JJ and Q-Rich. I'm hoping this aint true, because it would be a waste of money for the Suns, especially with JJ building something there, and going to emerge with Nash running the Point.
     
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    This won't work unless there plainning to trade JJ or Q. There both born 2 gaurds there better playing at 2 than anywhere else and you cant put marion at 4 and Amare at 5 so this would work out and would one of them be a good 3? I dont think so. This is just a waste of money for the Suns they should sign someone for there front court, I dont like Magiej Lamp.
     
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    Well JJ can play the 1,2 or 3, but Q is more of just a 2, so the could be planing on trading Marion for a big man or something, and then having JJ at 3, and Q at 2.
     
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    wow...the Suns are creating a big jam at the 2 and 3...I wonder what they have planned...I think L.A. wont match it thoguh, i think they have their minds set on Kobe and will do watever it takes to get him...I like Q in Phx, but would much rather see him in Denver.
     
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    we won't be able to resign JJ for much if we have Q at the 2 making that kind of money. I don't follow the Clppers so I'm no expert on Q but I heard he was a mediocre shooter and was more of a post up guard. I thought we were looking for outside threats? I guess we did get Nash. Do they plan on splitting time evenly between JJ and Q or do they plan on running JJ at the 3 and trading Marion and filler for Magloire or Dalembert (I can dream) or somebody.
    The Suns must want him by moving at this point when the Clippers aren't likely to sign him because they are still uncertain about Kobe... I wish they would've waited. Do we need this guy? Casey is on the summer league roster so it doesn't look like they've given up on him yet.

    I'd rather have Marion:( He produces every night and isn't finicky or troublesome.

    So

    Nash Barbosa Eisley
    Q Casey
    JJ Zarko
    Amare Vroman
    ? Voskuhl Lampe
     
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    This is stupid to me, I was thinking the Marion to Toronto, but that leaves the same situation if the Suns get Carter, it doesn't change anything.

    I'd say Q is more than a mediocre shooter, I'd give him a good shooter, but his defense is garbage, and he takes some stupid shots. Not the best decision maker. He's very strong though, good on the boards, and like a said, pretty good shooter, slightly above average maybe.
     
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    Maybe they want to try a three man rotation where JJ is on the floor at all times:) he covers Nash's down time and Q's as well. Wouldn't be unusual for them to burn him out like that. He won't be playing much time at the 3 I don't think. It just doesn't make sense with Marion and Zarko and Casey all there. Zarko will spell Marion this year (the more times I say it the more times I hope it is true).
    We're going to be saddled with a lot of big contracts. I'm assuming that most of our young talent is going to be worth reupping.
     
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    This move gives Phoenix alot more options with trades

    Q came off the bench effectively with the Clips so if they decide to do that again here I fail to see the problem. Kid's a good player who can hit the three and get out on the break.

    What centers are actually left to go after? you go for the best available player with your remaining money and thats what the Suns did.

    They need a center but so do 70% of the NBA.
     
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    yeah, the biggest fear is that we make a screwy move out of big man desparation. I'm for waiting a year and making a run at Dalembert next offseason.
    Phoenix fans aren't used to depth from our bench so we automatically think there will be a trade:) It is a bit questionable to think that Q would sign just to be a bench player though. Unless he just wants off the Clippers and we were the only ones on the market (Utah and Atlanta just stocked up their wings and Denver is after Manu).
     
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    I think Q-Rich is more of a 3 than JJ. His game is more inside than JJ's, because of his post up abilities, and he's an excellent rebounder. If they do trade Marion it's probably for a center and some other throw in players, but who? Ratliff and Patterson?
     
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    Yea he's a good rebounder and true he posts up, but he's also 6'5, and though he's strong, so is JJ.
    I still don't understand it, that much money for someone to come off the bench?
     
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    If they do indeed sign him, and the Clippers don't match, I think JJ will be the one coming off the bench.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting banks3:</div><div class="quote_post">If they do indeed sign him, and the Clippers don't match, I think JJ will be the one coming off the bench.</div>

    That would be a damned shame. [​IMG]
     
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    Ome other big issue is whether competition for the two spot (his fearing getting sent to the bench) will make JJs game suffer. He hasn't really proved himself on that. If he could come off the bench he could cover three spots and be the league's best sixth man within a year. It totally depends on him whether or not this deal helps the suns...
     
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    maybe will see a trade demanded from JJ if q rich does sign. i think the suns shoulda went after a big man, but if q rich signs i can see JJ leavin.
     
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    Holy ish

    First they sign a monster deal for Nash that was borderline ridiculous. Now they sign a player to a 6 year deal who plays the same position as Joe Johnson (star in the making). If I didn't know better I would think Danny Ainge is the Gm for the Suns.

    I thought the whole idea about the Marbury trade was to save money?? Now they are just throwing it away like it was made out of toilet paper.

    I'm not going to down this trade yet. IF they trade one of their guards or Marion for a bigman almost all of this nonsense will make sense. But if they don't.......We are now looking at the New York Knicks of the West (with more cap space of course).
     
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    Some serious questions here. The real reason that teams cannot sign free
    agents until the 14th is that the NBA will announce the real salary cap on that date.
    Teams under the cap do not actually know how much money they are able to spend,
    but they have an idea, within a few million. From what I'm reading, Phoenix has
    offered $12M to Nash and $8M to Richardson. They sure are making the most of
    their $16M available money. Is someone gonna get hurt here?
     

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