Will their every be another quaterback like Mike Vick

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  1. the inside source

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    The Draft has gone bye and no quaterback has impressed me well their is big Ben but on one lick mike vick. I mean vick is just increbile with his moves and his arm. Let me know what you guys think
     
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    Vick is really no different than Randall Cunningham. I acctually think that Randall was a better playmaker, he was a much better passer then Vick. I would also argue that both Culpepper and McNabb posess similar skills to Vick, maybe not as fast as him, however they are much better passers.
     
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    Vick has speed and can slang the ball. He will be a better playmaker than Cunningham and will most probably break a few more records in his career. If you watch A. Brooks, him and M. Vick throw the ball they're the same. GUN SLINGERS.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bleedblk&gld)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick has speed and can slang the ball. He will be a better playmaker than Cunningham and will most probably break a few more records in his career. If you watch A. Brooks, him and M. Vick throw the ball they're the same. GUN SLINGERS.</div>

    when you say a few more records, that means that he acctually broke one. I guess that would be being on of the most overrated ever. And also overpaid.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagles4Life)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bleedblk&gld)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick has speed and can slang the ball. He will be a better playmaker than Cunningham and will most probably break a few more records in his career. If you watch A. Brooks, him and M. Vick throw the ball they're the same. GUN SLINGERS.</div>

    when you say a few more records, that means that he acctually broke one. I guess that would be being on of the most overrated ever. And also overpaid.</div>

    So you say overrated...that is the most OVER USED phrase ever! Overrated would denote that Vick doesn't win games...the man (and the rest of the team) just wins games so stop hatin', trick!

    Mike is like no other QB. RC had his days but Vick is much faster and has a stronger arm. All he needs is time to develop. Folks seem to forget that the guy only spent two years in college and it wasn't in a passing offense. All of you haters will eat your words. Just like all the "experts" who said that the Falcons were PRETENDERS at the beginning of the season when they started 6-1 and the BRONCOS, SEAHAWKS, CHARGERS were all CONTENDERS. Where are they now? Yeah, like I thought - sittin' at home watching the MV Show!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SoCal Falcon)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    So you say overrated...that is the most OVER USED phrase ever! Overrated would denote that Vick doesn't win games...the man (and the rest of the team) just wins games so stop hatin', trick!</div>

    Actually Over rated would imply that people think as a consesus that he is better than he actually is. So if most people said he was "awesome" and i thought he sucked(i would be right) then IMO he would be overrated. It has nothing to do with winning or losing

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SoCal Falcon)</div><div class='quotemain'>
    Mike is like no other QB. RC had his days but Vick is much faster and has a stronger arm. All he needs is time to develop. Folks seem to forget that the guy only spent two years in college and it wasn't in a passing offense. All of you haters will eat your words.</div>

    No is saying he does not have a strong arm, i may even be willing to conceed it is strongest in NFL, but he never had accuracy at VT and he doesnt have it now.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SoCal Falcon)</div><div class='quotemain'>
    Just like all the "experts" who said that the Falcons were PRETENDERS at the beginning of the season when they started 6-1 and the BRONCOS, SEAHAWKS, CHARGERS were all CONTENDERS. Where are they now? Yeah, like I thought - sittin' at home watching the MV Show!</div>

    Seahawks are overrated, Falcons have won as many playoff games as those teams. If the falcons played Jets, Rams, or Colts last week they would be out, instead they were in weak NFC where there inflated record got them bye
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SoCal Falcon)</div><div class='quotemain'>All of you haters will eat your words. Just like all the "experts" who said that the Falcons were PRETENDERS at the beginning of the season when they started 6-1 and the BRONCOS, SEAHAWKS, CHARGERS were all CONTENDERS. Where are they now? Yeah, like I thought - sittin' at home watching the MV Show!</div>

    Falcons also havent played a game yet. they WILL lose against the Rams
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Actually Over rated would imply that people think as a consesus that he is better than he actually is. So if most people said he was "awesome" and i thought he sucked(i would be right) then IMO he would be overrated. It has nothing to do with winning or losing</div>


    I'm been trying to figure out how to say this about Vick all season. Thanks BF1.

    Overrated is one person's perception. Vick is a good football player and play maker. How good is still under debate. In this forum, I would say more people think Vick is closer to an average QB than a great one. I would certainly call him above average, but he wouldn't be my first choice.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bleedblk&gld)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick has speed and can slang the ball. He will be a better playmaker than Cunningham and will most probably break a few more records in his career. If you watch A. Brooks, him and M. Vick throw the ball they're the same. GUN SLINGERS.</div>


    C'mon bbg you can't use thier names in the same sentence except if you say they are cousins. You and I have seen more Saints games than anyone on here probably. And we know how great Brooks is. (He is not)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bleedblk&gld)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick has speed and can slang the ball. He will be a better playmaker than Cunningham and will most probably break a few more records in his career. If you watch A. Brooks, him and M. Vick throw the ball they're the same. GUN SLINGERS.</div>


    C'mon bbg you can't use thier names in the same sentence except if you say they are cousins. You and I have seen more Saints games than anyone on here probably. And we know how great Brooks is. (He is not)</div>

    I think if you had a quality O-coordinator brooks might very will be goign to pro bowl every year, he lacks a little in accuracy, but for the most part makes good decisions,makes all the throws, and he wants to win.
     
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    I think Michael Vick needs to improve his passing before he can be a good QB. Right now, he looks like a halfback playing out of position. I think once the Falcons run into a team that shuts down his running, he will show what a poor passer he is at this point in his career. That can happen as easily as the Vikings gaining a 14 point or more lead and forcing Vick to throw to catch up. Then, perhaps some of the hype will die. The truth is that Michael Vick resembles Kordell Stewart more than any other QB right now and if he doesn't learn to hurt defenses with consistant passing, his fate won't be much better.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bleedblk&gld)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vick has speed and can slang the ball. He will be a better playmaker than Cunningham and will most probably break a few more records in his career. If you watch A. Brooks, him and M. Vick throw the ball they're the same. GUN SLINGERS.</div>


    C'mon bbg you can't use thier names in the same sentence except if you say they are cousins. You and I have seen more Saints games than anyone on here probably. And we know how great Brooks is. (He is not)</div>

    I think if you had a quality O-coordinator brooks might very will be goign to pro bowl every year, he lacks a little in accuracy, but for the <u>most part makes good decisions</u>,makes all the throws, and he wants to win.</div>

    Brooks!!!! Goood Decisions!!!!! no way. He throws it backwards more than anyone ever!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think Michael Vick needs to improve his passing before he can be a good QB. Right now, he looks like a halfback playing out of position. I think once the Falcons run into a team that shuts down his running, he will show what a poor passer he is at this point in his career. That can happen as easily as the Vikings gaining a 14 point or more lead and forcing Vick to throw to catch up. Then, perhaps some of the hype will die. The truth is that Michael Vick resembles Kordell Stewart more than any other QB right now and if he doesn't learn to hurt defenses with consistant passing, his fate won't be much better.</div>

    I know he played Bears twice, and Urlacher was spying him, and it totally crushed him. A fast linebacker on the team like Urlacher spying him and he is as useless as a three dollar bill.
     
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    back to the question i could see Vince Young in a few years tear it up like Vick has. he ran all over Mich. good defence.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'>


    C'mon bbg you can't use thier names in the same sentence except if you say they are cousins. You and I have seen more Saints games than anyone on here probably. And we know how great Brooks is. (He is not)</div>

    I think if you had a quality O-coordinator brooks might very will be goign to pro bowl every year, he lacks a little in accuracy, but for the <u>most part makes good decisions</u>,makes all the throws, and he wants to win.</div>

    Brooks!!!! Goood Decisions!!!!! no way. He throws it backwards more than anyone ever!</div>

    He has a career INT % of 2.86% which is only slightly higher than Tom Brady at 2.57%
    He does make some REALLY dumb decisions, but it is usually cuz of the position he is put in by -playcalling, and shitty defense.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Leefontaine)</div><div class='quotemain'>back to the question i could see Vince Young in a few years tear it up like Vick has. he ran all over Mich. good defence.</div>

    He is like Vick in that he has no accuracy.
     
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    I just don't think Aaron Brooks is a bright or even slightly smart individual. I've seen him do so many stupid things, I can't help it. The broncos game is a big prime example. He gets sacked but manages to throw the ball away......but it was to a bronco D-lineman! He threw it right to him. I'm sure you have seen the play.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'>I just don't think Aaron Brooks is a bright or even slightly smart individual. I've seen him do so many stupid things, I can't help it. The broncos game is a big prime example. He gets sacked but manages to throw the ball away......but it was to a bronco D-lineman! He threw it right to him. I'm sure you have seen the play.</div>

    He has too good of stats, you just are remembering the bad things. He has thrown 3500 yards 24 tds 8 ints while completing 60% of his passes in a season. He is a quality QB.
     
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    You are looking at 2003 stats, but yea those are great. Add 11 fumbles to those 2003 stats. I'm pretty sure he had the most fumbles in the NFL that year (under dante). He does the stupid things at the wrong times. I'm not saying he is terrible, I am just saying he is an idiot.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BJames1156)</div><div class='quotemain'>You are looking at 2003 stats, but yea those are great. Add 11 fumbles to those 2003 stats. I'm pretty sure he had the most fumbles in the NFL that year (under dante). He does the stupid things at the wrong times. I'm not saying he is terrible, I am just saying he is an idiot.</div>

    He is still young and coming into his own, give him a couple years, and a better O-coordnator and you will be pleasantly surprised
     

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