Biggest mistake your team has made

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    What's the biggest mistake your team has made during this offseason or recent trades in this season? I think the sixers biggest mistake was signing Brian Skinner to that horrible contract and trading Eric Snow for Kedrick Brown and Kevin Ollie. Trading Eric wasn't a big mistake, because he wouln'dt have fit in the offense anyway, but the people that we got back was a mistake
     
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    Everything except for drafting Biendris, although the Murphy/Richardson signings arent looking as bad
     
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    The Warriors biggest mistake was probably signing Derek Fisher.
     
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    Cavaliers - Letting Boozer slip away, but that has been solved by the steady play of Gooden
    Pistons - Not resigning Memo, but that has been solved with the steady play of McDyess
     
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    Magic- Letting go of Keith Bogans because he will be good in the future.
     
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    Portland- TRADING JERMAINE O'NEAL
     
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    Rockets - Not signing Damon Jones when we had the chance.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gee_Dupe11:</div><div class="quote_post">Portland- TRADING JERMAINE O'NEAL</div>

    This offseason [​IMG]
     
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    Rockets Trading JJ and Boki for Wesley
     
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    Mavericks - as much as I hate to admit, not resigning Nash. Oh well we are still doing well.
     
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    Philadelphia 76ers
    1. Not hiring Cheeks when or trying to perssue him when we where looking for a coach. True he is not the greatest coach in the the world, but he is a very good one imo. His philadelphia roots would have been great for the team he also being a former Philadelpiha point guard would have been a great inspriation to Allen Iverson as well not trying to get him was a big mistake I may sound arrogent in saying this, but I just dont like the JO hiring was good for the team at all he does not have a set starting lineup which many times causes the team to struggle, he does not have a set offense he wants to run he came into here saying I want to run a run and gun offense yet when that has started to work he has praised the Seattle Sonics offense with three men up top shooting jumpers all day which is not what we need in Philadelphia if he ever switches to that offense I would be the first to hop on the fire JO bandwagon.


    2. Trading away Nazr and Theo Ratliff for Mutombo at the time it was a good trade, but now it just seems like after the trade has run its course the value we traded away was better than what we recieved. We traded away at the time two players with potential for a all star who was near the end of his career and a defensive player of the year. Now that the two players that we traded away with "potential" have become one a great shot blocker and defender, and the other has become a good center who can get you a double double on any given night. Also another trade that was bad was trading away George Lynch to the Hornets for DC one of the worst trades in Sixer history in my mind Lynch provided this team with vetern leadership and gave us a locker room leader and influence which we lose and was replaced by a negative influence and bad attitude in DC.

    3. Trading for Gelnn Robinson the guy is one of the worst players to ever put on a sixer uniform or in a better phrase the worst player ever not to put on a sixer uniform he is constantly injured sometimes its fake injuries he has no type of defense or work ethic and I cant wait until his contract either gets traded away or comes off our cap. I would love to have Van Horn back on the team and for that trade nver to have gone down or for it to have been straight up Van Horn for Spree.

    Orlando Magic


    1. Trading away Ben Wallace although Grant Hill has finally been ehalthy this season and been great for us I would still rather the Ben Wallace trad enver have gone down we could have had the best defense in the league at this point and would have had the best offense with a Tracy Mcgrady and Ben Wallace duo on the team.

    2. Trading away Maggette he has upped his scoring each season he has been in the league is now a 20 points per game scorer we could have had that type of player if we did not trade him to the Clippers just one of the many mistakes we made [​IMG] .

    3. Losing Shaq without anything just watching him walk was the most horrible day for any Magic fan in the short history of the team. We let the most dominate player in the NBA go and got nothing in return with him went any hope at the time we had of winning a championship.

    4. Trading away Chris Webber on draf night. Penny was great for us, but what if we had a Shaquille Oneal, Chris Webber, Horace Grant front court what could have been? The greatest front court of the time possibly it may have been able to get us at least a championship possibly.

    5. There are a lot more, but if I took the time to list them all..... [​IMG]

    Chicago Bulls

    1. Trading away Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler I know Chandler may be a future star, but why would we trade away the rookie of the year who averaged 20 points a game for him the season after he won the award. It makes no sense to me really I was in shock when it happened I could not believe it.

    2. Not developing Miller and Artests talents when they where here. Would I want them still here and would I not have wanted there trade to go down? no I think it was actually good for the team to trade them because Miller did not do anything for us at the time he was here and Artest had issues so it was basically a Artest for Rose trade. If they hd performed when they where here I would list there trade as a bad one, but they really didnt do much.

    3. The biggest mistake in Bulls history not convincing MJ not to retire those two times imagine what could have been 8 championships possibly the best dynasty in NBA history maybe controlling the entire 90's era of basketball. It was horrible to see that happen.

    4. Drafting a guard three years straight in the draft we could have filled so many wholes in our team with those high picks, but always took guards Crawford, Williams, and Hinnrich. Hinirch was a good pick, but in the Williams draft we could have gotten a better big man. At least we got a Deng as well as a guard in this years draft.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Orlando Magic


    1. Trading away Ben Wallace although Grant Hill has finally been ehalthy this season and been great for us I would still rather the Ben Wallace trad enver have gone down we could have had the best defense in the league at this point and would have had the best offense with a Tracy Mcgrady and Ben Wallace duo on the team.

    2. Trading away Maggette he has upped his scoring each season he has been in the league is now a 20 points per game scorer we could have had that type of player if we did not trade him to the Clippers just one of the many mistakes we made [​IMG] .

    3. Losing Shaq without anything just watching him walk was the most horrible day for any Magic fan in the short history of the team. We let the most dominate player in the NBA go and got nothing in return with him went any hope at the time we had of winning a championship.

    4. Trading away Chris Webber on draf night. Penny was great for us, but what if we had a Shaquille Oneal, Chris Webber, Horace Grant front court what could have been? The greatest front court of the time possibly it may have been able to get us at least a championship possibly.

    5. There are a lot more, but if I took the time to list them all..... [​IMG] </div>

    Those are all true and very disapointing [​IMG] but it was things that happend this year.
     
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    Raptors - shouldn't it be obvious? *cough* VC for jack squat *cough*
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Philadelphia 76ers
    1. Not hiring Cheeks when or trying to perssue him when we where looking for a coach. True he is not the greatest coach in the the world, but he is a very good one imo. His philadelphia roots would have been great for the team he also being a former Philadelpiha point guard would have been a great inspriation to Allen Iverson as well not trying to get him was a big mistake I may sound arrogent in saying this, but I just dont like the JO hiring was good for the team at all he does not have a set starting lineup which many times causes the team to struggle, he does not have a set offense he wants to run he came into here saying I want to run a run and gun offense yet when that has started to work he has praised the Seattle Sonics offense with three men up top shooting jumpers all day which is not what we need in Philadelphia if he ever switches to that offense I would be the first to hop on the fire JO bandwagon.


    2. Trading away Nazr and Theo Ratliff for Mutombo at the time it was a good trade, but now it just seems like after the trade has run its course the value we traded away was better than what we recieved. We traded away at the time two players with potential for a all star who was near the end of his career and a defensive player of the year. Now that the two players that we traded away with "potential" have become one a great shot blocker and defender, and the other has become a good center who can get you a double double on any given night. Also another trade that was bad was trading away George Lynch to the Hornets for DC one of the worst trades in Sixer history in my mind Lynch provided this team with vetern leadership and gave us a locker room leader and influence which we lose and was replaced by a negative influence and bad attitude in DC.

    3. Trading for Gelnn Robinson the guy is one of the worst players to ever put on a sixer uniform or in a better phrase the worst player ever not to put on a sixer uniform he is constantly injured sometimes its fake injuries he has no type of defense or work ethic and I cant wait until his contract either gets traded away or comes off our cap. I would love to have Van Horn back on the team and for that trade nver to have gone down or for it to have been straight up Van Horn for Spree.

    Orlando Magic


    1. Trading away Ben Wallace although Grant Hill has finally been ehalthy this season and been great for us I would still rather the Ben Wallace trad enver have gone down we could have had the best defense in the league at this point and would have had the best offense with a Tracy Mcgrady and Ben Wallace duo on the team.

    2. Trading away Maggette he has upped his scoring each season he has been in the league is now a 20 points per game scorer we could have had that type of player if we did not trade him to the Clippers just one of the many mistakes we made [​IMG] .

    3. Losing Shaq without anything just watching him walk was the most horrible day for any Magic fan in the short history of the team. We let the most dominate player in the NBA go and got nothing in return with him went any hope at the time we had of winning a championship.

    4. Trading away Chris Webber on draf night. Penny was great for us, but what if we had a Shaquille Oneal, Chris Webber, Horace Grant front court what could have been? The greatest front court of the time possibly it may have been able to get us at least a championship possibly.

    5. There are a lot more, but if I took the time to list them all..... [​IMG]

    Chicago Bulls

    1. Trading away Elton Brand for Tyson Chandler I know Chandler may be a future star, but why would we trade away the rookie of the year who averaged 20 points a game for him the season after he won the award. It makes no sense to me really I was in shock when it happened I could not believe it.

    2. Not developing Miller and Artests talents when they where here. Would I want them still here and would I not have wanted there trade to go down? no I think it was actually good for the team to trade them because Miller did not do anything for us at the time he was here and Artest had issues so it was basically a Artest for Rose trade. If they hd performed when they where here I would list there trade as a bad one, but they really didnt do much.

    3. The biggest mistake in Bulls history not convincing MJ not to retire those two times imagine what could have been 8 championships possibly the best dynasty in NBA history maybe controlling the entire 90's era of basketball. It was horrible to see that happen.

    4. Drafting a guard three years straight in the draft we could have filled so many wholes in our team with those high picks, but always took guards Crawford, Williams, and Hinnrich. Hinirch was a good pick, but in the Williams draft we could have gotten a better big man. At least we got a Deng as well as a guard in this years draft.</div>

    He means this offseason, not the whole teams history, but you have some interesting points.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the sixers biggest mistake was signing Brian Skinner to that horrible contract and trading Eric Snow for Kedrick Brown and Kevin Ollie. </div>

    The contract lenght might be 2 years too long, but Skinner can live up to the contract if you just give him playing time. He's a beast inside. I'm sure any NBA team right now that isn't in a rebuilding mode would take him and his contract, because he will live up to it, if given playing time.

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    It's not in the offseason, but for the Raptors, I would say that the worse move is not getting enough for VC. Jerry West said that they had a better offer than the Nets, and I would take whatever offer they gave us, if it involves atleast one draft pick or 2 of the following: Wells, Battier, Jones, Posey, Watson, Wright.
     
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    Boston = Not signing a more expierenced point guard to back up Payton. Banks is too up and down.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dunksworth:</div><div class="quote_post">Raptors - shouldn't it be obvious? *cough* VC for jack squat *cough*</div>
    this offseason dude. Alothugh that was a bad idea
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting iversonfan3:</div><div class="quote_post">This offseason [​IMG]</div>

    oops my bad

    Well Portland-NOT TRADING FOR RAY ALLEN
     
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    the raps: hiring rob babcock and mitchell, the new era sucks. to be fair, the old regime was horrendous as well.
     
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    Miami Heat

    1.Wesley Person- At first I thought this was a great idea of the thought of adding even another great shooter to our team srrounding Shaq and Wade. Wesley has done NOTHING for this team so far. Good thing his contract isn't bad or esle I'd really be pissed off.

    2.Wang Zhi-Zhi- UGHHHH I HATE THIS GUY! He is even worse than Wesley PErson because we never needed him. Re-signing this guy when you have Shaq is stupid. Especially when you have better big bodies who can be in front of him in the tier list.

    Philadelphia Sixers

    1.Eric Snow-I was pretty upset about this trade because Eric was the leader of this team with AI and he was one of my favorite players. The worst part of this is the garbage players we recieved in the trade for him. Billy King better have something up his sleeve. THe Sixers had a GREAT off-season IMO. THis is the only real crap hole. I still would rather have Jim O Brien than Chris Ford, Chris Ford sucks.


    San Antonio Spurs(probably never knew this)

    1. Sean Marks- I can't stand players who are on an NBA team and do NOTHING. I think I can stop here. Nothing of contribution to the San Antonio Spurs. Just like Wang-Zhi Zhi except he's not as fun to laugh at. [​IMG]
    OVerall a good off-season by the Spurs. The addition of Brent Barry is nice even though Brent has yet to play to his potential.
     
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    For the Bucks: 1. Not getting a center: As much as I like Danny and Zaza, they are better off at PF. There wasn't much out there at center, and most teams overpaid to get one, ala the Bucks losing Skinner to Philly who paid him a ton to rot on the bench.
    2. Not giving Redd an extension: Simply so I have to sit through all the stupid trade rumors Chad Ford comes up with.


    Older but last few years:
    1. Signing Anthony Mason: Believe it or not, we are still paying that overweight worthless player 6 million dollars. His and Caffey's contracts come off after this year.
    2. Trading Ray Allen for GP: Basically what we got in this deal was one month of Gary Payton, and Desmond Mason for Ray Allen, Flip Murray, and a 1st round pick (turned into Luke Ridnour). As much as I love Dez, he isn't worth that much YET.
    3. Hiring George Karl: Yes, he looked good at the start, but he's the reason Ray Allen is in Seattle, and basically wrecked the team signing Mason and trading for Caffey.
     

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