NBA Rules

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  1. dimch

    dimch JBB JustBBall Member

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    Can someone tell me what these count as?

    1. McGrady throws a pass off the backboard to himself and dunks it.
    Is this a missed field goal? Does it count as a rebound?

    2. Lue shoots an airball but Yao, whilst standing still under the ring, catches it and scores two points
    Does Lue get a missed FG or an assist?

    3. Shaq throws a bad pass and the ball is heading out of bounds. Before it goes out, Wade jumps up into the air from inside the court, grabs the ball and throws it at Okafor. The ball hits Okafor's foot and then goes out of bounds.
    Is it Heat ball or Bobcats ball? I thought it'd be Heat ball but I've seen this go either way.
     
  2. Bahir

    Bahir User power factor: ∞

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    1. The ball doesent touch the rim untill he dunks it, so it not a field goal and not a rebound, and neither a self-assist.

    2. He gets an assist, because the ball didnt touch the rim. Last year in the playoffs, LAL-HOU, Kobe shot an airball 3 but Shaq caught it and dunked it in. Kobe got the assist.

    3. Its the Heats ball. The player who last touched the ball before it hit anything off court, or the player holding/dribbling the ball while having a bodypart touching something off court is the player responsible, and therefor the other team will get the ball.
     
  3. NJNetz

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    1. its just a 2 point dunk and nothin else
    2. if the ball didnt touch anything and yao catchs and dunks then it is an assist
    3.its out on okafor becuz it hit his foot meaning that he touched it last
     
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    I have an interesting one lets say Shaq throws the ball and it is about to go out of bounds but Wade saves it with one hand and throws it back in and Kobe cathes it and heads the other way down the court for a fieldgoal.

    Who gets the TO on their stat sheet Wade or Shaq?
     
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    Wade obviously.
     
  6. HurricaneJesus

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    Yeah, Wade. Shaq can't get the TO because he didn't directly turn it over. Wade avoided Shaq's turnover, but turned it over himself.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting HurricaneJesus:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, Wade. Shaq can't get the TO because he didn't directly turn it over. Wade avoided Shaq's turnover, but turned it over himself.</div>
    Actually it all depends on how long Wade has the ball. If he catches it and throws it, it's Wade's TO. If Wade just tips it, then most likely it'll be Shaq's TO. A tip is not a possession, therefore Wade couldn't be credited with a TO.
     
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    Hmm, yeah... now that I think of it - it's the same thing as tipping the ball off an opposing player so it goes out of bounds - that player can't really be given a TO, but who can?
     
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    According to NBA rules, it's not a rebound if its an intentional miss. And, by definition, a pass requires the ball to go from one player to another, so its not an assist either. It's just a dunk, done with extra flair.

    "Hmm, yeah... now that I think of it - it's the same thing as tipping the ball off an opposing player so it goes out of bounds - that player can't really be given a TO, but who can?"

    I don't think that counts as a turnover, because the team didn't have possession of the ball.
     
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    One thing I noticed the other day is that according to NBA stat procedures, each time the first of two free throws is missed, a team rebound is awarded to match the number of total shots attempted to the number of rebounds... also, rebounds and shot attempts are awarded on blocks, which I didn't know, but it makes sense...

    Just random thoughts.
     
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    this might be a dumb question but what do refs call when a player dribbles with both hands? (ive been wondering this ever since i was taught to dribble with one hand)
     
  12. HurricaneJesus

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    If you use both hands, it's a double-dribble.
     
  13. dimch

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    Does anyone think we should have a forum about rules for NBA and basketball in general?

    Anyway, slightly similar to my original question, but let's say Shaq shoots (and he intended to shoot) an airball, and Kobe catches it in mid air after it is obvious the shot is an airball and dunks it home. Does Shaq get an assist?
     
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    This is one question I still have yet to get an answer to..

    If a player attempts a 3 pointer and they get fouled flagarently, and the shot goes in

    do they get a foul shot and the the ball back
    or do they get 2 shots because of the flagarent
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">1. McGrady throws a pass off the backboard to himself and dunks it.
    Is this a missed field goal? Does it count as a rebound?

    2. Lue shoots an airball but Yao, whilst standing still under the ring, catches it and scores two points
    Does Lue get a missed FG or an assist?

    3. Shaq throws a bad pass and the ball is heading out of bounds. Before it goes out, Wade jumps up into the air from inside the court, grabs the ball and throws it at Okafor. The ball hits Okafor's foot and then goes out of bounds.
    Is it Heat ball or Bobcats ball? I thought it'd be Heat ball but I've seen this go either way.</div>
    1) It's just a dunk

    2) The Lue one can be interesting, Lue could get a miss FG, and Yao get's an offensive rebound, or Lue get's an assist. Depends on how the stats people see it.

    3) First of all, if a turnover is awarded it would go to Shaq, they give turnovers to the person responsible for the ball being lost, not just the guy that touched it last. It would be Heat ball if Wade got to the ball before it landed out, or before his body touched outside the court.

    If Wade threw if off Okafor and the Heat got the ball, the Bobcats don't get a turnover because Okafor didn't have possesion, it's jsut Heat's ball.
     
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    This is not a question pertaining to NBA rules, but which is the first name: Yao or Ming? I've been wondering 'cause it says Yao on the back of his jersey instead of Ming when his name is called Yao Ming instead of Ming Yao.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">This is not a question pertaining to NBA rules, but which is the first name: Yao or Ming? I've been wondering 'cause it says Yao on the back of his jersey instead of Ming when his name is called Yao Ming instead of Ming Yao.</div>

    Well the English way, his name is Yao Ming, but his chinese name Yao is the family name and in China the family name goes first. Lol I really know nothing about chinese culture, I got this impression from a playstation game called Dynasty Warriors 4. The guys name is Zhang He or something and Zhang is a very common Chinese family name.

    This is just my guess. I guess the name on the back of the jersey is really your family name. BTW I am not asian lol
     
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    Yes, Ace 2k2 is right, the "first" name is the family name in china
     
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    his real name is ming cause my friend is pakistanian(sp?) and his name is malik omar or omair and his parents call him by omar/omair so it could of been a passport thing or something but its funny cause when we call his house and we ask for malik they ask which one
     
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    Yao Ming's surname (family name) is Yao. His given name is Ming. Asian culture arranges their name differently than Western culture. According to the culture there, you announce your family/heritage name first, and then your given name. Hence - Yao Ming.

    Anyways, there's something that I'm wondering also. If a player blocks/tips a shot, but that shot still hit the rim, does he still get the block on that? Also, say that very same player grabs the ball right after, does he get a rebound?

    If you answered "yes" to the rebounding question, now let's say a player blocks a shot and gets the ball, but this time it doesn't hit the rim. Does he get a rebound now?
     

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