Nuggets at Warriors

Discussion in 'Golden State Warriors' started by Map1986, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. Gohn

    Gohn JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting UltimateWarrior:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone notice when Monty put in Foyle in the 3rd the Warriors made stops and went on a run to take the lead..His presence on the floor definetly improves the overall defense..He needs to learn how to control his fouls if he wants more playing time and he's gotta get more involved offensevly. His shot seems better this season, he's developed a little bank shot and his post moves seem a little better..we could definetly use more post scoring from our big men</div>
    I think one of the reasons foyle didnt play well early in the season was becuase he was out of shape. Yea I agree he needs to cut down on dumb fouls.

    Glad they won.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">I think one of the reasons foyle didnt play well early in the season was becuase he was out of shape. Yea I agree he needs to cut down on dumb fouls.

    Glad they won.</div>
    Glad they won too. What a job Richardson did, though. Picked up where he left off and did more of it right on national television.

    BTW Foyle should have been in shape because that knee surgery was done the summer before the last. He has lost a lot of lift. He just can't rebound like he used to because of it. He gets like two inches off the ground and can't get posession of the rebound and it ends up going to the other team unless Murphy is the quickest to retain posession after Foyle touches it last.
     
  3. Gohn

    Gohn JBB JustBBall Member

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    ^Thanks for the info about Foyle CustodianRUles. Didnt know that
    THought he got injured preseason.
     
  4. Dan Le

    Dan Le JBB JustBBall Member

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    Yay! Go J-Rich, he did awesome! 42 points is a career high for him right?
     
  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">^Thanks for the info about Foyle CustodianRUles. Didnt know that
    THought he got injured preseason.</div>
    No problemo, Gohn [​IMG] Don't forget big men always have a tendency to get more injured as they get older. So look for a lot of these guys to get hurt more often (especially Yao since he has no offseason to really condition himself and get stronger and rest more)

    BTW for anyone in our JBB fantasy league, keep an eye on Nick Van Exel. He's the f---n torch right now in the last 4 games. Never should have traded him since he was going to retire anyway. I love the guy's game even though he's in the twilight of his career.

    Oh yeah Dan Le, that was Jrich's new career high. I think it's only a matter of time before he starts bombing a 50 like Jamison did because there are games where he's just absolutely explosive in terms of scoring and the W's definitely need to look to him to carry this team. I'm glad he's more consistent and that he's starting to play up to his contract this year. Watch for Pietrus though, because he very well may have the same upside that Jrich does with better defense, so he may be a valuable trade piece, a key bench player, or a future starter. And btw, Jrich had some really great defensive plays in terms of securing rebounds and blocking a shot every now and then. He could probably be like what Eddie Jones was to Miami the last couple of years but with the body of a young Michael Finley doing an impression of Vince Carter (a streaky shooting power guard, but also clutch and worthy of a espn highlight play every night). When he feels comfortable handling the ball like a true shooting guard, he'll be rocking, but for now Speedy might as well be the go-to guy for that since he's nearly unstoppable one-on-one. Everything will come together if Jrich can put together his scoring with his above average passing and improve on his ballhandling and free throw shooting. I'm really impressed that JRich is being more physical and posting up other guards because he's a lot stronger than most of them so he might as well take advantage of using muscle rather than trying to use his unpolished crossover to take a defender off the dribble.
     
  6. DutchWarriorFan

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    Great win from the warriors and what a performance of Jason Richardson. Awesome to see him coming back and put up these stats. He has definitely grown in terms of consistency. Our future is starting to look brighter!
     
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    I was realy happy when I turned in my pc today and it said that GSW are back in the game and J-Rich had 42 pionts in his first game after injury. You guys realy seamed to sufer without him.
     
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    JRich played awesome. The only downside is he still falls in love with the 3 (2 for 9 when he shot 15-27 overall.) I like his inside game more and his free throws looked in rhythm. He has developed the scoring instinct. I only hope that Dunleavy can develop the same because when he's confident it goes in.

    Foyle has a nice jump hook. He hit one in the 4th and he needs to go to it more. I am sorry but Uncle Cliffy is just about used up. There's nothing left offensively or rebounding wise. He still plays good position D and he made some nice passes but the Warriors need more than that, especially rebounding at the 5 spot.

    While the Warriors played very well and scored, they won because the Nuggets were sloppy with the ball (22 TOs, Miller with 10!) and did not play very good defense. But it was good to see the Warriors take advantage of it and to see the Warriors have a coherent offense at the end of the game with Claxton taking the weave and high pick and roll.
     
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    I think Speedy played a really good game too to cause Miller into most of those TOs.
     
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    Jesus J-Rich is like a freakin machine. 42 points. Wow. Murph also had 17 boards and 22 points. Speedy had 18 points.
     
  11. Warriorfansnc93

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    I was so impressed with Jrich. He realized when his team was playing like crap and as the announcers said "playing with their heads down". That is when he took the team on his shoulders and began to lead them. That is what a leader and a superstar does...
     
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    Rudeezy JBB Senior *********

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    I saw flashes of TMac and Kobe from JRich last night. I'm glad this game was on national tv so that everyone got to see what JRich can do.
     
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    ^Next people will be calling him a star. Hopefully this and other things can make him an all-star [​IMG]
     
  14. Warriorfansnc93

    Warriorfansnc93 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Probably not this year although I think he is deserving, but definately next year if he keeps it up and we are close to the playoffs.
     
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    ^If we can get the big three (Speedy, J-Rich, Murphy) playing like they did against Denver and have guys off the bench like Pietrus or Foyle chipping in, we could make a run at the playoffs. Speedy is great and is a great defender, Murph is hardly ever guarded on the perimeter and is a great rebounder, J-Rich, well he's been averaging 23.4 in the last 20 games and is making his team better.
     
  16. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Remember JRich did have 8 assists with his 42 points. The guy can pass. Plus Murphy is good at what he does when he's left alone or he's got the putback off the rebound. Speedy is probably the best defender we have and the guy that can create his own offense right through a zone. Dunleavy just needs to play defense and pass the ball when those 3 are having good games like that and just needs to step it up when one, two or all of those three aren't getting it done. He's the last guy left that can make a difference. Cliffy could do it too, but he's no in the W's future plans after this season. Foyle's just a garbage player that will have to get better on his positioning and be a little smarter about what fouls to give and which ones to hold off on.
     
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    J-Rich is doing so good this year. He's been making his teammates do so much better, and the thing that is least recognized is how good he is working with his teammates. He is always the star in the second half, but do you notice how guys like Murph and Speedy will be putting up 17-25 points behind the scenes? He is just getting so good and I think he can be a franchise player if he can keep up what he has done this year and keep on putting up 20+ points with 6+ boards.


    I think what has made J-Rich so much better this year than in past years is that he has had to live players that were making other guys better. Arenas, Hughes, Jamison, and maybe even Damp. However we've gotten rid of all of them and we are letting J-Rich do what St. Jean saw that he could do when he was in college, be a franchise player that is capable of putting up big numbers every night. Now that J-Rich is allowed to do what he was drafted for, he has been making Troy Murphy play extremely well and Speedy Claxton has been putting up big numbers. The only problem is that Dunleavy has been trying do the same thing and has been failing grandly with J-Rich in the lineup when he attempts it. Now without J-Rich, Dunleavy has been asuming J-Rich's role and been doing good. Unless he can learn to play with J-Rich and compliment off of him like Murphy and Speedy have been doing, he will need to get out of here.


    What I despise most out of Mullin's choices this year isn't even a choice. It is that he is falling in love with big small forwards with a perimeter shot. Maybe that is because they remind him of himself. But really, he should start going for centers that aren't 18 year old Europeans or a big small forward. Not because I have something against European players, but because they either will not play due to Coach's Larrybrownonitis infection or they will spend most of their time overseas.



    You know, I highly doubt this, but there is a possiblity that while Mullin is falling in love with his Jonathan Bender's and Mike Dunleavy's, that he is dealing other big men on the team to open a spot for Biedrins. I actually doubt that because most of those guys Mullin wants that are big small forwards will able to play power forward and center which makes it even harder for Biedrins to play. I'd love to see Biedrins play and have him show off his skills once we get rid of Dunleavy and let Pietrus play.



    AZGS, you might say don't trade Dunleavy, but the truth is that if he can't learn how to play with J-Rich like Murph, he is going to be a waste of a number three pick. I say that we can try to deal Dunleavy and get Pietrus the starting spot. Why? Because he is very good at driving to the hoop and getting fouled. Also he has an outside shot he can use and is a much better defender than Dunlaevy. And with a lineup like this we could go for the playoffs

    PG: Speedy Claxton
    SG: J-Rich
    SF: Mickael Pietrus
    PF: Muprh
    C: Biedrins

    Biedrins and Muprhy could do so well together. Murphy could draw the fire away from Biedrins when he is inside and vice versa. Also Biedrins is a good rebounder and blocker that could score inside. Pietus and J-Rich are both incredible athletes that can go inside and take a three. Speedy can drive and is also a great passer that can start fast breaks. I say get rid of Dunleavy and start Pietrus and Biedrins [​IMG]
     
  18. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    A.P. I definitely want to see your lineup done, but I want to get something for Dun or see how he'd do off the bench. You can't chase away a number 3 and get little in return. I doubt other teams will outbid us for him, so as long as he keeps playing like crap, we get a duke role player that could possibly be cheap for once. Then if he ever explodes, we just got ourselves a real deal. I really shouldn't have anything against Dunleavy, but I thought Jrich was the worst defender on the team, now it's apparently Dunleavy. Now that Jrich is looking like the guy who could carry the team better than anyone else, I might overlook the fact he's not a great defender because of the offense, leadership and intensity he brings. Dunleavy, on the other hand, will he ever become a good defender or be more aggressive? I'll tell you this, I think it would be wise if Dunleavy ever got hot to start moving him, because you know he won't start on this team forever. He's not a good fit with Jrich and Murphy already signed to huge deals. And his attitude sucks it seems. I mean he disses the fans, talks smack when he has actually one or two really good games in the entire season, and then he always looks lost or like he doesn't want to be on the Warriors. It's like he'd rather join daddy in LA rather than with us.
     
  19. .cabangbang

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    ^Man you hit. It, J-Rich did good against Odom. It was Cliffy and Speedy we needed since Atkins and Odom were killing us. BTW I missed the preview due to internet connection problems that will keep me off for a while
     

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