Draft thoughts in light of recent events...

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  1. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Well I definitely agree with you rerem, that we should draft winners. But potential is also important. I mean a guy like Malik Rose is a guy with limited upside, but plays with heart and hustle and can manage double doubles. He's an overachiever.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    5 point game!
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Granger's stock has just shot up. Not bad for a guy who isn't quite an athlete and is in a really weak division.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Martynas A IS a backup to Tanoka Beard in Lithuania. Tanoka Beard was an American College player a few years back,don't recall the school,but Beard was not seen as a serious pro prospect. </div>
    Tanoka Beard is one of the top C/PF-s in Europe right now. I think the reason why he doesn't play in NBA is that he is only 6'9 and isn't fast and athletic enough to play PF in NBA. And he might prefer being star in Europe than sitting on the bench in NBA.

    Last year Zalgiris frontcourt Sabonis/Beard might even be better than many NBA teams have. [​IMG]
     
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    REREM JBB JustBBall Member

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    Granger often brings the ball upcourt and is NM's playmaker despite being a F. He has more steals than anyone 6-8 or taller,averages near 10rbd,19pt and is around 45% from 3pt-also gets shotblocks. When you watch him,he is not in a hurry but has timing,court awareness that is very impressive. At one point he reminded me of Mullin who used to smoothly weave between big men for a layin,with the ball always exactly where nobody could touch it. I think Granger is athletic,and quick, but his game is smooth preciscion,and playing the total game. Like a chameleon he can be you point G one play,the shotblocker in the paint the next. This guy,besides some rather remarkable stats in every category-impressed me even more once i saw him play-which was against a solid Utah team featuring Bogut
     
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    Malik Rose was a 6-7 power F at Drexel-so he didn't fit the profile,and I don't think he was drafted. Rose however was among the NCAA rebound leaders 3 years in a row,I think he averaged about 13 boards one year. he was a decent scorer. Height,strength,leaping,all help one rebound but the main thing is NADS, you really need to make it a combat situation. The attitude and effort that makes a guy a top rebounder very often will also make him an overachiever-a guy who pays the dues and keeps getting better. Some other guys are able to launch and soar for a pretty slam,a natural athletic gift,and some get to be high picks on that alone. However,when they don't have the nads,the desire,work ethic, many never improve,don't give that special effort that may mean a win. If a prospect has some Malik Rose in him,it's a plus
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Granger often brings the ball upcourt and is NM's playmaker despite being a F. He has more steals than anyone 6-8 or taller,averages near 10rbd,19pt and is around 45% from 3pt-also gets shotblocks. When you watch him,he is not in a hurry but has timing,court awareness that is very impressive. At one point he reminded me of Mullin who used to smoothly weave between big men for a layin,with the ball always exactly where nobody could touch it. I think Granger is athletic,and quick, but his game is smooth preciscion,and playing the total game. Like a chameleon he can be you point G one play,the shotblocker in the paint the next. This guy,besides some rather remarkable stats in every category-impressed me even more once i saw him play-which was against a solid Utah team featuring Bogut</div>
    Hmmm, the draft will certainly be interesting. [​IMG]

    You would know more about college ball than me.
     
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    My Pacific Tigers beat out Taft and Pitt this morning [​IMG]
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Height,strength,leaping,all help one rebound but the main thing is NADS, you really need to make it a combat situation. </div> I think every player should buy some.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">My Pacific Tigers beat out Taft and Pitt this morning [​IMG]</div>
    This is your year, CH! First Baron Davis and now this. Looks like the Tigers played a balanced game.

    On the other hand, this must bring Taft's draft stock down a bit. 13 points, 12 rebounds, 3 of 4 foul shooting, 5 of 7 shooting from the field, 2 blocks. Was this guy even demanding the ball? What was happening with the guy?
     
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    We (Pacific) have a solid front line. Maraker and Yango played him tough and Mihailovic would foul him every time he touched the ball. All in all, Taft looked pretty good. When Taft got the ball, he pretty much scored at will. After seeing this game though, I don't see him as much of a dominating pro prospect. He's just too slow to play 4 and not big enough to be a solid 5. Yango held Taft considering he's an undersized 5. I actually think Yago would be able to play decent minutes at the pro level (at the 4) if he just had a mid-range jumper.
     
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    Side Note: I'm watching Bogut dominate UTEP even through double teams and nobody else on the team contributing. (game is tied at 52 though)

    I didn't realize he could pass so well. Working from home is amazing this time of the year. I love my job!!!
     
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    I guess the folks at NBA Draft.net saw Granger's game against Utah-they moved him up about 20 slots. Salim Stoudamire also got a boost to a more realistic spot and J Petro got shifted to '06. So far they still list Ike Diogu and Sheldon Williams as 06 draft,though both moved up a bit. Diogu looks to me like a solid top 10 pick,perhaps top 5. Ariz St,even with Ike back is not a top 20,so NBA $$$ could lure him. I figure if a guy has several million bucks he can pay tuition to finish his Sr year. As Duke is always a contender,Sheldon may have a more difficult choice. As Seniors, Granger and H Warrick are definitely in the draft,but most of the other possible top 10 guys have options
     

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