ESPN Dream Job with NBA Players

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  1. Timberwolf

    Timberwolf JBB JustBBall Member

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    I watched it with interest tonight. It was nice to see something new instead of watching hacks try out for SportsCenter in the two series of Dream Job

    Here is my review on the contestants:
    Matt Bullard -- He did a good job overall. He went straight to the points and he uses stats and facts to what he had to say.
    J.R. Reid -- He did a great job. He was full of substance whenever he spoke. Very informative and gave facts and reasonings to what he had to stay.
    Dennis Scott -- See my comments on J.R. Reid
    Dee Brown -- See my comments on Matt Bullard. I really liked his comments on Selfish Mebury (Stephon Marbury)
    Darryl Dawkins -- He was opinionated. He really got on C-Webb good. He had personality. He did a great job mixing style and substance.
    Gerald Wilkins -- He stunk. There was a reason why he was the first guy eliminated by fans and the judges. He added nothing to the table. He tried to get too cute. He had no opinions. He stutter and stammered out there. He stunk out there. He even had to say to himself that he stunk.

    Several comments:

    Stephen A. Smith ripped everyone for bringing nothing and how their work for garbage. Funny. What exactly does Stephen A. Smith do on ESPN other than act like a idiot, yell at Greg Anthony and Tim Legler, make outrageous statements, gestures, and etc. Those guys sans Gerald Wilkens are so much better than Stephen. No wonder why Stephen decided to degrade others. He can learn a lot from them.

    I did have to wince when Darryl Dawkins and J.R. Reid agree about how the winner of the NBA All-Star Game should get home-court advantage. Are they kidding me? When a team works so hard all year, why should a team not be rewarded with home-field advantage. Home-field advantage won't make the All-Star Game meaningful at all. That's not the answer to improve ratings for the game. I don't know what is the answer, but rewarding home-field advantage to the winner of the conference is not the answer. Baseball tried that gimmick in the last two years and the ratings for the MLB All-Star Game is not that great either.
     
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    Da_Future_2k5 JBB Banned Member

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    maybe i'm not watchin the same show you are, but i just dont think any of these guys deserve a job as a broadcaster. none are close to being good, not even solid really. its hard to even watch the show without feeling sorry for how bad they are doing.. just my two cents.
     
  3. Timberwolf

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    Obviously, some of them has a lot of work to do.

    If I have to pick the guy who was really good, it's Dennis Scott.
     
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    Iron Shiek Maintain and Hold It Down

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    I thought that show was pretty interesting myself.

    I agree that Stephen A. Smith doesn't really bring any type of substance to his commentary. He is hired for his on camera presence and entertainment value. You would think that at this point in his career he would be secure enough in what he does for a living to give helpful pointers to those who wish to follow in his footsteps. He seems to get a kick out of highlighting everyone's misteps as opposed to commending the positives in their performance.

    I was impressed by J.R. Reid the most. He seems the most comfortable with the content. None of the players that are competing were good enough where they should be making constant references about their playing days. All Dennis Scott could do was make threes. He was just fortunate that the questions that he got were about the three point shot. You don't see Tim Legler, a former three point champion, constantly talking about his jump shot, or Mark Jackson, who is the second All-Time assist leader in NBA history, constantly making reference to his ability to pass the ball, or even Greg Anthony talk about his defensive prowless. ESPN has tried that angle w/ a great player and failed miserably with Tim Hardaway.

    I'm going to continue to watch this show but I'm disappointed how the judges critique these contestants. Don't just make up reasons as to why their performances weren't great. If the content wasn't great, don't come up w/ a bullshit stat just so it makes it seem like you know what you are talking about. Stephen A. constantly does that and that is why he is my least favorite ESPN analyst.

    Bring back David Aldridge and Steve Jackson.
     
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    JWohl JBB Lovin the BCS

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    what

    what show are YOU watching? thats not what I saw!! they were all atrocious!! DD was funny but not inshigtful .... we have better conversations and better analysis here on JBB!! They had a good idea with the analyst job but a bad idea with former NBA players.... if they did it with the same tryout formate it would be great!! By the way Zach Selwyn shoulda won dream job 1
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">!! By the way Zach Selwyn shoulda won dream job </div>

    I thought Aaron Levine should have won it. He was the runner-up that lost. He was awesome.

    BTW, I notice the two winners for the last two Dream Job series is not on ESPN much.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">what show are YOU watching? thats not what I saw!! they were all atrocious!! DD was funny but not inshigtful .... we have better conversations and better analysis here on JBB!! They had a good idea with the analyst job but a bad idea with former NBA players.... if they did it with the same tryout formate it would be great!! By the way Zach Selwyn shoulda won dream job 1
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    They may not have been great, but it was also their first time. I am sure they know that they got lot of work to do. Give them some time and then judge them after that.

    Greg Anthony and Tim Legler was not that great at first, but they got better as they were getting used to being an analyst.

    Oh and I thought Aaron Levine should have won it in the first installment of the Dream Job series. He was pretty good.

    I notice the past two winners are not on ESPN that much.
     
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    I saw it on Sunday night.

    Gerald Wilkins really sucked. He stuttered a lot and just stumbled through with really no facts or opinions to back up his arguments. I hope Darryl Dawkins wins it. He's got a great personality and is really funny. Plus he backs his arguments up with facts and is very opinionated.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Timberwolf:</div><div class="quote_post">They may not have been great, but it was also their first time. I am sure they know that they got lot of work to do. Give them some time and then judge them after that.

    Greg Anthony and Tim Legler was not that great at first, but they got better as they were getting used to being an analyst.

    Oh and I thought Aaron Levine should have won it in the first installment of the Dream Job series. He was pretty good.

    I notice the past two winners are not on ESPN that much.</div>
    obviously they will get better but they are no where near the quality of the contestants on dream job some of whom were good enough to be legitamite hosts. BTW aaron levine was good but he didnt add anything to the show he just woulda a been a normal give the news anchor as apposed to selwyn who can do that but also be creative and bring viewers in. I saw him a quirky kenny mayne type anchor... i thought both aaron and zach were better than mike.
     
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    Anyone know what happened to Dana Barros? He was all over the commercials for Dream Job the first couple of weeks and then he was just gone.
     
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    I got to watch the replay of Dream Job tonight as I heard Gerald Wilkins using that line that Johnny Cochran said about if the glove does not fit, he must acquit when he described about the value of Gary Payton. That was pretty sad right there for Wilkins.

    I think Dawkins may have to do a little bit better next week or he may be eliminated. Same goes to Matt Bullard I think.

    JWohl: The fact you mentioned about how Aaron was sort of bland is the reason why he lost out to the end. That's too bad. I hope other people in the media recognize his talent though. At least, he was the runnerup. I thought Lori Rubinson was pretty good too, but like Aaron, she was bland. You know it could be worse? Maggie (the contestant that was in the first installment of Dream Job) could have won it and my god she would be awful. Mike hasn't really been on ESPN that much. I guess ESPN did not think that he was that special. He is not even on ESPNews.

    CeltsMan: Dana Barros had to leave the show because he had family matters to deal with.
     
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    what

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Timberwolf:</div><div class="quote_post">I got to watch the replay of Dream Job tonight as I heard Gerald Wilkins using that line that Johnny Cochran said about if the glove does not fit, he must acquit when he described about the value of Gary Payton. That was pretty sad right there for Wilkins.

    I think Dawkins may have to do a little bit better next week or he may be eliminated. Same goes to Matt Bullard I think.

    JWohl: The fact you mentioned about how Aaron was sort of bland is the reason why he lost out to the end. That's too bad. I hope other people in the media recognize his talent though. At least, he was the runnerup. I thought Lori Rubinson was pretty good too, but like Aaron, she was bland. You know it could be worse? Maggie (the contestant that was in the first installment of Dream Job) could have won it and my god she would be awful. Mike hasn't really been on ESPN that much. I guess ESPN did not think that he was that special. He is not even on ESPNews.

    CeltsMan: Dana Barros had to leave the show because he had family matters to deal with.</div>

    You didnt comment about zach slewyn. What are your thoughts on him? Why shouldnt he have won?
     
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    JWohl: I thought Zach was alright. I think he got a little too cute with his reports hence why he did not win it. I hate to say it because looks shouldn't be the reason why he has to lose, but the judges clearly wanted him to have a hair cut or take the beard off. They even told him that, but he did not and he shouldn't have to either.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Timberwolf:</div><div class="quote_post">JWohl: I thought Zach was alright. I think he got a little too cute with his reports hence why he did not win it. I hate to say it because looks shouldn't be the reason why he has to lose, but the judges clearly wanted him to have a hair cut or take the beard off. They even told him that, but he did not and he shouldn't have to either.</div>
    He did cut his hair and shave between the second and third episodes... leading to Tony Kornheiser saying "Zaaaachariiiiiaaa Selwyn, I do declare, look at you"
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Timberwolf:</div><div class="quote_post">Mike hasn't really been on ESPN that much. I guess ESPN did not think that he was that special. He is not even on ESPNews.</div>
    I heard that since Mike is so young he is being made the face of the new college sports channel, ESPNU.
     
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    interesting

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CeltsMan54:</div><div class="quote_post">I heard that since Mike is so young he is being made the face of the new college sports channel, ESPNU.</div>
    really?! that is quite interesting...(stroking non-existant beard)
     
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    I would have to agree with everyone that says this show is garabage, yeah its something different from the regular dream job. But they went out & found guys who have very little personality to bring to the table. I havent seen every show so far. But everytime I do watch it, it is just the same thing a bunch of guys struggling to read the q-cards. And never making the story they are reading blend in with their past experiences as athletes. You hear the same thing from the panel of judges all the time from what I have seen "why dont you guys try more to put your self in the athletes perspective sine you all are fromer players. And that will allow you to give the viewer more insight". But rarely does any of those guys do that.

    Honestly, the only guy I would watch is Darryl Dawkins because it has always be in his personality to entertain. ESPN & SPORTSCENTER is all about entertainment/personality to go along with us getting our scores & Highlights. If we just wanted guys to read us scores from q-cards then we just check for the sports segment on our local news channnels.
     
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    precisley

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">I would have to agree with everyone that says this show is garabage, yeah its something different from the regular dream job. But they went out & found guys who have very little personality to bring to the table. I havent seen every show so far. But everytime I do watch it, it is just the same thing a bunch of guys struggling to read the q-cards. And never making the story they are reading blend in with their past experiences as athletes. You hear the same thing from the panel of judges all the time from what I have seen "why dont you guys try more to put your self in the athletes perspective sine you all are fromer players. And that will allow you to give the viewer more insight". But rarely does any of those guys do that.

    Honestly, the only guy I would watch is Darryl Dawkins because it has always be in his personality to entertain. ESPN & SPORTSCENTER is all about entertainment/personality to go along with us getting our scores & Highlights. If we just wanted guys to read us scores from q-cards then we just check for the sports segment on our local news channnels.</div>
    That is exaclty why my main man Zach Selwyn shoulda won dream job 1. He was robbed by getting rid of LaVar Arrington the last show....he woulda never voted for zach
     
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    I stopped watching dream job after the first season. Maybe I'll tune into this one to see how it is.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CeltsMan54:</div><div class="quote_post">I heard that since Mike is so young he is being made the face of the new college sports channel, ESPNU.</div>

    Thank God ESPNU is not on my cable system if that's the case. Not that I wanted ESPNU anyway.

    Hall did SportsCenter and ESPNews and he flat-out stunk. Mike Hall is probably content to do anything for ESPN and get paid, but he also can't be happy that he is not doing SportsCenter for a year as he was promised to. You would think he would at least to do some work on ESPNews, but he showed he was not good enough either.

    How about the winner of the second Dream Job? I haven't seen him. I did not even know who won since I did not watch the second installlment of the series. I got interested in watching the third installment because it was nice to hear former NBA players try out.
     

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