About that lunatic Jeremiah Wright

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  1. AEM

    AEM Gesundheit

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%">Obama’s pastor Jeremiah Wright: Former Muslim</span>
    April 07th 2008

    A reader from Free Republic has dug up an old article last year (March 07) From TNR about Obama. It was written by Ryan Lizza, Senior editor at The New Republic. It’s a biographical piece, but in the article, it explicitly states that Jeremiah Wright is a former Muslim.

    From Wright and others, Obama learned that part of his problem as an organizer was that he was trying to build a confederation of churches but wasn’t showing up in the pews on Sunday. When pastors asked him the inevitable questions about his own spiritual life, Obama would duck them uncomfortably. A Reverend Philips put the problem to him squarely when he learned that Obama didn’t attend services. “It might help your mission if you had a church home,” he told Obama. “It doesn’t matter where, really. What you’re asking from pastors requires us to set aside some of our more priestly concerns in favor of prophesy. That requires a good deal of faith on our part. It makes us want to know just where you’re getting yours from.”

    After many lectures like this, Obama decided to take a second look at Wright’s church. Older pastors warned him that Trinity was for “Buppies”–black urban professionals–and didn’t have enough street cred. But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity’s guiding principles–what the church calls the “Black Value System”–included a “Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.’”

    ....</div> http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jere...-former-muslim/

    It could indicate another reason Obama found kinship with Wright, though the overall weight that should be given to the information is iffy.
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Apr 8 2008, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>though the overall weight that should be given to the information is iffy.</div>

    No kidding.
     
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    AEM Gesundheit

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    Well, it doesn't really add much to what everybody already knew about him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Apr 8 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, it doesn't really add much to what everybody already knew about him.</div>

    It fuels the Obama-is-a-Muslim fear mongering to a minor extent. There's no need for it.
     
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    I agree that's a ridiculous state of affairs. On the other hand, Wright should worry people for who he is, not who he may once have been.
     
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    I wasn't going to vote for the man either way, but huevonkiller's right. People who see that who could be swayed by the Obama-as-a-Muslim fear could be inclined not to vote for him.
     
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    Which misses the point entirely, I agree. The problem with Wright, at least, has nothing to do with his former connection to a form of Islam per se, but with the fact that he's a bigoted douchebag no matter what religion he's claiming to espouse.
     
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    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    ^ That's really all that needs to be said. This Muslim fear that some Americans seem to have is pretty ridiculous. I actually looked at some of the other material on that blog and it was digusting.
     
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    Fascinating how the key information is overwhelmed by the knee-jerk antipathy, eh?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Apr 8 2008, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which misses the point entirely, I agree. The problem with Wright, at least, has nothing to do with his former connection to a form of Islam per se, but with the fact that he's a bigoted douchebag no matter what religion he's claiming to espouse.</div>

    McCain's support of other bigoted pastors is ignored entirely as well. Yeah he condemned some of them in 2000, then he switches his tune six years later. There are many points that are missed in this media cycle.
     
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    McCain is doing what it takes to give him the best chance to win. It's quite transparent. He's still got the maverick label so it's dubious he's doing to be beholden to some fringe/lunatic religious leader. In fact, the 2000 bit distinguishes him from Obama in a huge way - Obama _never_ condemned his pastor until way too late.

    The scary thing for Obama's chances is that if it's some small % of the electorate that believes in the muslim myth about him, it could have a huge impact on the election. A 2% swing might be more than enough to throw the election McCain's way.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM)</div><div class='quotemain'>The problem with Wright, at least, has nothing to do with his former connection to a form of Islam per se, but with the fact that he's a bigoted douchebag no matter what religion he's claiming to espouse.</div>

    I agree 100%
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Apr 8 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fascinating how the key information is overwhelmed by the knee-jerk antipathy, eh?</div>

    Welcome to life in the 21st century. LOL.

    Does this mean the age of enlightenment is over or do we just blame it on the round the clock news cycle & the need to be as sensational as possible?
     
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    ^ Call it the Age of Titillation [​IMG]
     

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