Are we looking better without Lillard?

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  1. BrunoSOC

    BrunoSOC Ripcity from Brazil

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    Shabazz playing pretty well and our team as a team play very hard. Everybody scores and everybody was involved. I think Lillard is not 100% because he's trick shots and miss a lot of open 3s. He's #FG% are trash right now. I don't know, I really joke in wrong, but it's gonna be a very tough game against the wolves, and since Dame's back is gonna 3 in a row...
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I'm trying to be chill, but constant threads like this are annoying and dumb. SIGH.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Since Dames back we're gonna lose? Gtfo with that.
     
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    BlayZa Misbehaving responsibly

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    nope, but i dont think the effective difference between him/cj and bazz/cj is as big as i thought it'd be.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Something needs to change on this team. Frankly I think anyone should be on the table if the price is right.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    We are 0-2 since hes rerurned
     
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    You don't trade Lillard.
     
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    BrunoSOC Ripcity from Brazil

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    I love him, but I'm just saying. He's a rythim guy.
     
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    Well he has to play to get a rhythm.
     
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    He's much more than that man. He didn't have a rythym from 3 but still had many good drives and defensive plays while making the right passes.

    It's like all you guys base his game of his 3pt shooting, and then if that's not good, it's the cause for our loss. It's ridiculous.
     
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    Yeah, Bazz is a good NBA PG, and should be traded like such.
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    dame has a bad game from deep and of course a thread is started on how we might be better without him. The most bipolar fan base in the world. Think before you speak
     
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    It may not be Dame's fault, but at some point, the team has to ask why they win at a higher rate when he's out? There's nothing in Dame's game or personality that would answer it. It might be match-ups, or it might be teammates elevates their efforts in his absence. But if it's the latter, why isn't he commanding that effort when he's out there? None of it really adds up, but it's a consistent enough pattern, it has to be looked into no matter how much you hate the idea of it.
     
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    Who'd we beat in his absence? ATL, CHI, and LAL, all awful teams.

    And then we beat a SAS team without 3 starters and their 6th man by 1, at home.

    And then we beat an OKC which turned in an awful effort and will lose to anyone some nights.

    The team isn't better than him out, at all. With he way the rest of our team played against HOU and NOP, we would've lost by more.

    Correlation doesn't equal causality.
     
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    For real man. Me and you have more common sense than more than half the board which is crazy because we both wear our emotions on our sleeves.
     
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    But for some reason, people like Pat, Zach, and Mo played better when Dame was out. Their production has gone way down since Dame came back. Not saying we should trade Dame but the bench guys have to play just as hard when Dame is in the lineup.
     
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    Would a fire sale make us better than 5 seed? Prob not. So relax.
     
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    Correlation doesn't equal causality.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
    A lot of people need to learn this.

    Pat played mostly when Dame was sitting, so what does Dame have to do with Pat airballing a 3, almost airballing another, and shooting one off the side of the backboard?

    Collins didnt play any worse than he normally does, and was always gonna struggle against Davis/Cousins.

    Harkless had a stretch without Dame where he was awful too. He's inconsistent as fuck, and his good games just so happened to come when Lillard was out (he also gets more minutes when Dames out which makes those rare good games more likely).
     
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