Batum for #4 pick?

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  1. Shooter

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    I suggested this a few weeks ago. Most of the people on here don't think batum is enough to move to #4. Batum would be great in the triangle offense though
     
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    Would do this is in the bat of an eye - definitely draft Winslow.
     
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    Id definitely do it if Russell falls to 4. He and Lillard would be an amazing backcourt. He could start at SG and frees up money we would otherwise gamble on Wesley's health
     
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    Our only hope is the Orlando pick.

    And we likely would have to include CJ with Batum to get them to bite.
     
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    Everyone posting this rumor/speculation does it in a different thread ...
     
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    Batum and the #23 won't get us into the lottery right now. I wonder if CJ's stock is high enough to package with the #23 to get into the late lottery? I think that's a more realistic scenario.
     
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    in all seriousness do you think Batum who has one yr left and had an overall lousy season and is a UFA after next summer and the 23 pick is worth the #4 pick. NY would laugh you off the phone
     
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    it only happens on Fantasy Island
     
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    It might be possible if we can get Afflalo to opt in, trade him for a pick (Cavs for Haywood and 24?) Then trade Batum, 23, 24 and a lotto protected 2018 1st for 4th and take on Calderons salary.

    What about CJ, Batum, and 23 for 4 and I'd Russell falls? Could then play him behind Wes and Dame and search for a legit SF. If LA returns were contenders and if not we got the backcourt of the future with Russell and Lillard complimenting each other perfectly. With Meyers and around $50M in cap space who knows how good of a young core we could assemble
     
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    I personally think Nic alone would get you to #8 or lower. Just a feeling. With the pick, it might get you to 5 or lower.
     
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    For those of you that think Batum is worth the 4th pick, why not just keep him? It's because he's not worth the 4th pick.
     
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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=b6a36dbd344626adbb968a996f9e68f4&t=188175

    I keep on coming back to this. If he was worth the #4 to some team back then, why wouldn't he be worth a mid to late lottery now? He's better. No matter how frustrating he is.

    BTW, welcome back.
     
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    I think Batum could fetch you 8 and 8+23 could possibly get you 4.
    Batum + 23 would get you 8 and CJ + 8 would certainly get you 4
     
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    I would not give up much to move into the late lottery. Is there really that much difference between 23 and 13 in terms of talent?
    It seem to me that it plateaus out at that point.
     
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    I think Batum+23 could get us Meeks, Tolliver+ 8. We'd have to take on those undesirable contracts (Meeks 2/12 and Tolliver 1/3) but they aren't terrible players.

    Then we could probably flip Kaman, Crabbe + 8 for #4 and Calderon (not a great contract either but hey, what can you do?)

    Draft Porzingis.

    So basically Batum, Kaman, Crabbe and 23 for Calderon, Meeks, Tolliver and 4.

    Huge risk. I doubt I'd do it unless LA was gone for sure.
     
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    I'm not giving away Batum for the #4 pick. I have informed Olshey that he is to hold out for #3. We don't live in the sewer around here.
     
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    Also, while I'm normally lottery driven, IF Portland keeps Aldridge, they need veteran defensive stoppers, not lottery guys. Now IF Aldridge does indeed leave, then the best way to find a replacement is in the lottery
     
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