So…. Deal CJ3 for nothing and pay big for essentially the same dude? I’m not against it, but the mathematics don’t work out. Same $, only 2 years younger at this point. Wouldn’t seem so odd if we hadn’t given CJ away for nothing, unless we can obtain Beal for nothing. Am I wrong?
Just a trash fit. We basically just traded Beal to NO For his career, Simons is a better 3pt and FT shooter than Beal Simons, while an inch shorter, has a longer wingspan
It's amazing how many players Damian "wants" here, that are looking to be traded and improve their destination. It's almost as if Portland and Damian are being used as leverage by the other players agents.
Beal is an electric scorer, but a volume shooter and not a defender. Not really a player I’d like next to Lillard. Would it be our attempt at splash bro’s?
You're wrong that CJ and Beal are the same dude. Beal is a full notch above CJ. You're not wrong that it's highly unlikely to happen any time soon.
I assure you that you're in the minority there. Beal would have a ton of value on the market and start on every team. Two things you can't say about Norm.
Yeah not sure i see him as better either? I really don't Like making a bunch of comparisons off stats but the stats say they are about the same? CJ is a better scorer and absolutely commands more attention from three.
3 time all-star, who has proven he can be an effective #1 option over multiple seasons; two things CJ has never done. Despite being that #1 option that teams look to slow down, his shooting percentage is as good (slightly better) than CJ. IF Beal is available for trade, I can assure you his trade market will be far more attractive even though his salary is greater than CJ.
The all star thing is not relative because they played in different conferences. CJ in a much more stacked west. He may be better, but not by much IMHO. Absolutely don’t want him OR Lavine on this team….with our current make up
Yeah, having Ant who is also an offensive guard who has showed he can score and facilitate at a high level but hasn't shown anything close to elite ability on defense, who we will get on a much better contract than Beal, who has a much longer window than Beal before we can expect his skills to decline and still has the possibility to get better on both ends... means we should not be concentrating on Beal an offense only guard and should concentrate on acquiring positions of need. Also while Beal is more heralded than CJ, they have the same strengths and weaknesses both having shown their best given their respective ages. So acquiring him would be like upping the anti on the same hand we just folded in February. Again, our efforts should be to acquire players who are great with different skillsets, at different positions than the players we currently have.
You’re right that Beal is a notch above CJ (though NO CJ is better than PDX CJ - he looks better as a #1 option in NO than #2 in PDX, and that’s a huge reason we missed out on a second lotto pick in this draft). But, beyond that conversation…. it doesn’t really feel like it’s be much different than the Dame-CJ combo.
I wasn't referring to Beal's value to a third team, 0r his value to a team without Dame. You might be right Beal is worth more around the league. I am posting in a Blazers forum about the Blazers team. On a team with Dame getting a supermax I'd rather have the superior defender, off ball play, and vastly smaller contract of Norm than max contract ball dominant poor defense Beal. Adding Beal would be a worse roster construction version of DameCJ, not to even mention Simons.
Why on God's gray earth would the Blazers want Beal. He does nothing to address a single roster need, and his contract is out of the question under our current circumstances and need to acquire players at other positions.
