Blazers 2021-22 salary cap

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like we haven't used the tax MLE?

    It also sounds like we're currently under the luxury tax, will we stay under?
     
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    Correct
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    One reason might be that you cannot use the tax MLE if you accept a player in a sign and trade.

    Could Lauri be in our future?
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    We would need to be under the hard cap then.

    I guess we could trade DJJ.
     
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    It appears we could stay under the tax again to avoid repeater penalties in this season or future years.
     
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    either I'm reading Spotrac wrong, or they are all over the map

    according to them:

    upload_2021-8-8_14-10-12.png

    that's 134.38M. But as far as I can tell, that does not include Snell or Brown

    if that's the case, then adding Snell & Brown would add about 2.4-2.5M putting Portland over the 136.6M tax line already, without the 14th player. Even if it includes Snell, a vet minimum + Brown has the same impact. Maybe, if one of the listed amounts is a little high, the Blazers can stay under the line. But if Portland is determined to be a non-tax team next season, Dame is as good as gone

    edit: another way the Blazers can stay under the line is to sign an undrafted player who has no NBA experience.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Neil is saving it for “flexibility.”

    You know, for a trade that will never happen.
     
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    The Cap is total Bullshit, when the Lakers can use and abuse it, and keep doing it over & over again. Plus if any team is hard capped, it should have already happened to the Lakers & Nets.
     
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    what is bullshit is the soft cap

    the NBA should have a hard cap for all teams at the level of the tax line, and the max contract should be 50% of the cap. Then we'd see how serious players are about playing on super-teams. Union would never agree though
     
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    I think the union might if they were still guaranteed their revenue split... which would send to cap skyrocketing because all of the players' portion of the revenue that is going to salaries on teams way above the cap would be averaged into the new cap.
     
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    Minimum salary players count for luxury tax less than their contract, so teams don't avoid veterans with higher minimum salaries. Maybe that is part of your discrepancy.
     
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    yeah, I understand the vet minimum rules

    I'm looking at the Blazer page on Spotrac:

    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/portland-trail-blazers/cap/

    if the total cap they list includes Snell (which may or may not be the case) Portland is 2.2M below the tax line counting 12 players, but not Brown. Adding the 900K for Brown, would put the Blazers 1.3M below the line. Since the cap charge for a minimum is $1,669,17, getting to 14 players by signing another vet minimum player would put them over the tax line. But being 200-300K over the line would leave them lots of options to get under the line by the trade deadline

    on the other hand, if they signed an undrafted player with no NBA experience they could sign him for 900K and stay out of the tax

    but obviously, this would do the opposite of convincing Dame to stop thinking about being traded

    there's also the reports that the Blazers offered the TPMLE to Oubre (can't believe Olshey would be dumb enough to offer the minimum), so, while I think the Blazers will try and keep the tax low, I do not believe they are determined to stay out of the tax
     
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    I don't think it would be crazy to see us under the luxury tax at the end of the season despite Olshey going on and on about being willing to spend.
     
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    Gonna sound like Olshey here but he has a point.
    If the trade makes the team better and creates a better chance of contending then I'm all for a trade.
    If not the smart play is to stay under the cap.
    "At the End Of The Day" everyone on this site would agree and do the exact same thing. We can "Bifurcate" all we want but eventually we all end up in the same place.
     
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    and lose Dame...yeah, so smart
     
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    We can easily get under the tax by stretching DJJ. We will eat 3.3M in dead salary for three years but that gets us safely out of the tax. In the case we are stretching DJJ, I'm assuming we are going full rebuild, so that dead cap doesn't matter as much. It would be a pretty sad turn of events though.
     
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    Think about your response? Read the statement again maybe.
    If they go over the Tax for a player that doesn’t help then they just hurt themselves in the future when possibly there is a player available.
    If Damian Lillard wants out then he wants out.
    You move him for as much as you can get and move on. I love Lillard as much as any fan but in the end the team is who I cheer for. Damian Lillard is not going to be the end of my fandom.
    Drexler wasn’t. Walton wasn’t. Roy wasn’t. Lillard won’t be either. Eventually Lillard will move on or retire. 2, 3, 5,6 years? It’s going to happen.
    Making a smart move is not going to cost the team Damian Lillard. Many other issues have lead us to where we are now.
     
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