Blazers need 3 point scoring

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Too bad he'd foul out about 6 minutes into the game.
     
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    We should try having Meyers shoot 2 swish3s per possession.
     
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    Miss one, offensive rebound, shoot a second one which goes in (since he is apparently expected to make half his shots...).

    This strategy will maximize the swish3 opportunities for Meyers and help to ensure reaching the benchmark of 15 or more made swish3s optimal for success.
     
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    The whole swish3 schtik gets me every time. Love it.

    But this hatred for Zach by @TorturedBlazerFan is really baffling to me. Is it because he's white?
     
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    If only his melanin levels gave off a purple hue, than I could love again.
     
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    See what I mean? You might as well just change your name to TZH (The Zach Hater).
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I appreciate TBF's reasonable tempering of hype and expectations for Zach. I agree with him completely. I'm glad he's been playing well thus far, and certainly hope it continues, but don't expect him to keep up a 24 PER or an 80% TS% for the entirety of the year. Prior to him having a few down games, we'd be well-served to solidify in our minds that what he's done this first few games is not his baseline.
     
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    But there is a difference between recognizing that and not buying in to how a player plays with his skillset. If his PER drops to 20 and his TS% down to 60% that still makes him a stud, that is why people are so excited.

    The reason I tease @TorturedBlazerFan about it is that he continually brought up that Zach's actual numbers didn't match what some of us thought of him. Well Zach is showing exactly why myself and others didn't think the numbers from last year mattered. Sure Zach is shooting great so far but no other part of the way he plays is flukey.

    Last year: Show me the numbers!

    This year: Wow, the numbers are good but I don't know still.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Both reasonable responses to what we've seen. 7 games, mostly against reserves, without opposing coaches planning or preparing for him, in the early part of the season when most teams are still in a feeling-out process. I remain cautiously optimistic for his continued success, but am still not expecting "stud".
     
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    Awww how cute, you didn't want to leave poor tortured out in the cold by himself.

    :wink::wink::wink:
     
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    Lol, last year I didnt go show me the stats, sure I brought up his stats because they werent good but even through that I said to give him some time. My response through both when he’s played well and not played well has been sure he passes my eye test for the most part especially on defense, but that I need to see more.
    I think weve all seen some rookies struggle in their 1st year and have good careers. I think weve also seen guys play and look really impressive in stretches and end up not really being that good.

    I dont mind the heat because I know as a fan my job is to get excited because he’s looked really good this year, but like I said in another post at this point I am just really slow to jump on the train of almost all players. I havent jumped on the Doncic, Young, Ayton trains, or even the Ben Simmons train quite yet.

    Im cool with being the “hater” lol. At the same time though I have advcoated that Zach should start, and get more minutes for whatever thats worth.
     
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    Or to Labinot
     
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    The Blazers beat the Rockets Oct 30 but scored 8 of 20 swish3s versus the Rockets 10 of 43. The Rockets showed how a lot of swish3 attempts does not win at only 23% shooting.

    CJ was 3 of 6, Nik was 2 of 6, Dame and Seth were each 1 of 2, and Jake was 1 of 1.
     
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    The Blazers beat the Pelicans Nov 1 scoring 54 (18 of 35) versus 24 (8 of 29) for the Pelicans without playing the leading Blazer swish3 shooter. This 30 point swish3 margin also helped achieve the 130 point scoring target and was a satisfying success to begin this year's Pelican contest and get past last year's playoffs.

    Notably excellent swish3 shooting by Jake (3 of 3), Jusuf (1 of 1), Seth (3 of 4), Nik (2 of 3), Dame (4 of 7), Zach (2 of 4), Caleb (1 of 2), and Chief (2 of 5) gave a combined swish3 % of 51%!

    The quick sequence of swish3s by Nurk and Dame at the 100 point mark seemed to bring a game winning momentum that propelled a smooth 4th quarter win. Let's remember that feel and keep doing it. This can be a 54+ win season.
     
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    Only 1 day after the Warriors set the 72 point swish3 record, the Celtics equalled it. The standard for swish3 scoring per game is heading steadily upward. I think that the 54 points the Blazers by swish3 against the Pelicans ought to be the early season target to keep up the 70%+ win rate. Later the goal may progress to 60+ swish3s points, when we should expect to take 50+ attempts.
     
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    Just want to reinforce that the basic concept of this thread is accurate. Presently, Blazers are 4th league-wide in 3-point accuracy, but only 17th in volume (resulting in 8th in quantity made). Stotts talked this offseason about the Blazers shooting at least 30 3's a game; well, that figure would be bottom-third in the league. There's definitely an argument for getting the 3 point attempts up to closer to 35 per game.
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    Stop sullying this magnificent thread with inaccurate description of the swish3 - continued misuse of the term will lead to unfavorable discourse and less winning at the internet even if your argument % is high.
     
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    More swish3's please

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