OT MLB to PDX: We're talking baseball to PDX

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  1. SportsAndWhine

    SportsAndWhine Dumbass For Hire

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    The mistaken notion that Tri-Met and other public services have to be profit centers for the city rather than cost enters based on the Greater Good has hampered a lot of potential good growth in the space.
     
  2. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    I thought TriMet has always been heavily subsidized and nowhere near a profit?
     
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    SportsAndWhine Dumbass For Hire

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    It is, but people see this as a bad thing, and make Tri-Met cut service to meet some draconian budget because they're "oversubsidized". If they'd just accept it as the cost of having a great city, they could prioritize service over punishing riders for a budget they don't control.
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    It will absolutely be the issue if they somehow manage to get a stadium built (they won't).
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No, no it won't. There are almost 3 milion people here. You're saying they can't even get 1% to go to games?
     
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    Portland Passive Aggressives
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    It's football.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    To save money, our opening night pitcher will be Patty!
     
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    Not to 81.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Thats why it's called "average "
     
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    And what are you basing this on?
     
  12. tlongII

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    My superior intellect.
     
  13. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Possibly, but you never saw them at games. There was always so much enthusiasm that it was overflowing. There were always lots of painted signs showing deep rooted support.

    Notice how none of t he doubters has the cajones to
    Underground parking garages don't grow on trees. Concrete parking garages are expensive. Still, there's gotta be at least something in the way of parking garage.

    Personally, I like the idea of the Vaughn St. Proposal, it kinda takes me back to the old old Beavers baseball stadium.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    When the AAA Beavers were here there was good support. I'm certain that a MLB team would draw even more. The fly in the ointment is that Portland is not the same city that it used to be. We now have the Blazers, Thorns and Timbers. Another factor is that we are larger than we were back then.

    I hate to keep harping on studies but I'd like to know more about any studies on the issue and what they came up with.
     
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    What? The Beavers had terrible fan support. They were lucky to get 3K for a game.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It depended on the weather. Multnomah Stadium was largely under the sky.

    Any new stadium would have to have a retractable roof.
     
  17. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I can vouch for this. My first job in Portland was serving season ticket holders for Beavers, Timbers, and Vikings games at then PGE park. The Beavers games were brutal......
     
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    When did the timbers and beavers play in the same place at the same time? I thought it got renovated first?
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    People don't understand the concept of externalities and external costs we all bear in the absence of public supported infrastructure. Like mass transit. I just love hour long traffic jams to go 3 miles.
     
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