OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    The chemtrails must have finally got to him.
     
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    This is 2020 like a motherfucker!!!!

     
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    * "The researchers compared the coronavirus response of the U.S. to that of six other countries— South Korea, Japan, Australia, Germany, Canada, and France—and found that the American government’s response to the pandemic rated unfavorably against them all. The U.S. has suffered a COVID-19 fatality rate more than double that of Canada and 50 times that of Japan. Extrapolating from the deaths per 100,000 people in each country, the researchers estimated how the U.S. might have fared had it followed the example of a more robust response. The answer: always better than it did in reality.

    If the U.S. had followed Canadian policies and protocols, there might have only been 85,192 U.S. deaths—making more than 132,500 American deaths ‘avoidable.’ If the U.S. response had mirrored that of Germany, the U.S. may have only had 38,457 deaths—leaving 179,260 avoidable deaths,” the researchers wrote.

    The researchers chose the half dozen countries that have achieved some level of success in responding to the pandemic.

    “We should model ourselves on the best. We should be the best,” Redlener said. “We have the resources, the economy, the scientific expertise to do this the right way. We’re facing a lethal pandemic, and we had very misguided leadership that chose to berate the purveyors of masks and social distancing. The president himself became a superspreader. He has blood on his hands
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    Disagree with Redleners premise.

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    lol...you'd have to actually correlate the percentage of Covid deaths to obesity being a contributing factor. You're just guessing, and it looks a lot like attempted deflection.

    besides that, Canada is pretty close to the US on your obesity chart. The US obesity rate is 23% higher than Canada, but our mortality rate is 163% higher. The US Obesity rate is 54% higher than Germany, but the mortality rate is 476% higher.

    swing and a miss HB

    I know it's a radical idea but a doctor who is also a professor at Columbia and a public health expert might actually be capable of decent analysis of data that accounts for what the data shows
     
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    I consider overall health a considerable contributing factor and the fact is America is extremely unhealthy. Saying we should be the best is not realistic.
     
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    fine then, you have a philosophy. But you supported that philosophy by citing obesity rates and I believe I showed that obesity does not control mortality rates

    could it be a factor? sure. But Germany's death/million is 119. The US has an obesity rate about 54% above Germany. That would mean that if Obesity was the factor your tried to make it out to be, America's mortality rate would be 184 deaths/million. But the reality is our rate is 686 deaths/million, 3.7 times higher than the 'obesity-adjusted' rate of Germany

    so, if there was an actual correlation to obesity, and that correlation would have to start with an infection rate equal to everybody else among the obese (good luck finding that), and using Germany as the baseline, then the US should have 59,000 dead, instead of 227,000.

    I think the actual analysis you disagreed with was that our Covid response has been a disaster primarily because of the policies and actions of the federal government, and that far too many citizens operate under the illusion they know more than doctors, epidemiologists, and scientists
     
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