Draft Archetypes

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Here are some archetypes. Nominate this year's version.

    The Clarence Weatherspoon: undersized PF whom everybody says can either play SF or be the next Charles Barkley, but turns out, can't.

    The Pavel Podkolzine: nobody knows if he can play but check out the measurements!!!

    The Joe Alexander: Look how high he can jump! Oh, the upside!

    The Tony Allen: fairly inept on O but so ferocious on perimeter D that it makes up for it.

    The Taj Gibson: "he's too old!" "Very low ceiling!" Drops to the low first/early second and turns out to be a very good rotation player.

    The Shelden Williams: Puts up great numbers for a great program and gets drafted way too high.

    The Paul Millsap: had great numbers for an obscure school and ends up being a steal because of doubts about measurements

    The Paul Pierce: the surprise slipper who comes back to be great

    Feel free to add your own.
     
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    The Sebastian Telfair An undersized, overhyped PG who dominated in the overrated, narcissistic city of New York and was drafted by a complete idiot.
     
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    The Clarence Weatherspoon: Anthony Bennett.

    The Pavel Podkolzine: Rudy Gobert

    The Joe Alexander: Cody Zeller

    The Tony Allen: Gorgui Dieng

    The Taj Gibson: Mason Plumlee

    The Shelden Williams: Kelly Olynyk / Michael Carter-Williams

    The Paul Millsap: Tony Mitchell

    The Paul Pierce: Shabazz Muhammad
     
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    Good choices, MM. Interesting cross-positional nomination of Dieng.

    I see Muhammad as either a Beasley (high-rated, drafted high, bust) or a Bayless (high-rated, dropped in the draft, but not quite far enough), myself.
     
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    I agree with several of MM's nominations
    • The Clarence Weatherspoon: Anthony Bennett.
    • The Pavel Podkolzine: Rudy Gobert
    • The Joe Alexander: DJ Stephens
    • The Tony Allen: Gorgui Dieng (I really like this one!)
    • The Taj Gibson: Jeff Withey
    • The Shelden Williams: Cody Zeller
    • The Paul Millsap: Jamal Franklin
    • The Paul Pierce: Ben McLemore (I don't know why, but I just have a feeling he might drop a couple spots unexpectedly)
     
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    I had Dieng as the Taj Gibson, myself, as people can't stop noting that he's 23.
     
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    Greg Oden The big black guy Center hung like a horse, that lets his dogs fall off balcony's and is built of glass.
     
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    Tracy McGrady a really young wing player with incredible physical tools but nowhere near the skill or mental fortitude for anyone to compare them to Kobe Bryant. See: Green, Gerald; DeRozan, Demar.

    Mark Price whitey PG who balled ass in college, probably from a mid-major conference. Great all around skills but again no ones comparing to Steve Nash or John Stockton because everyone knows they've still got a REALLY high bust ratio due to lack of athletic ability.

    Luol Deng wing player with good size who no one has the balls to call as either a complete bust nor a legit star. Lacking in "it" factor and ability to take over games.

    Derrick Coleman/Weatherspoon/Tractor Trailer fat fuck who has talent but needs to drop weight to do anything in the league.

    Larry Hughes/Marquis Daniels we love to oogle this guy's PG skills but since the last 12 6'5+ guys who we touted as true PGs all ended up being busts we're gonna go conservative. See: Hodge, Julius; Weaver, Kyle; Livingston, Shaun; Crittenton, Javaris; Brewer, Ronnie; Wroten, Tony.
     
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    Scrubby center taken in the lottery for the sole reason, because he's 7'0"
     
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    Got some more for this year:
    The Marcus Camby/Tyson Chandler - athletic big man who will dominate on D and disappoint on O
    The Ben Wallace - bulkier than the above and not half as heralded
    The Steph Curry/Damian Lillard - small school superstar that nobody knows whether it'll translate
    The Kyle Korver - pure shooter who will drop because people are scared he's...
    The Adam Morrison - star in college, bust in the NBA.
    The Pops Mensah-Bonsu/Jerome "JYD" Williams - great athlete who puts up great stats but plays out of control so bounces around from team to team (ours was Thomas Robinson)
    The Russell Westbrook - (in the draft, that is) you have to gamble on him because he wasn't given minutes on a stacked college team. The big version is The Zach Randolph
    And everyone's favorite this year:
    The Draymond Green - heralded college player who drops because of size/speed concerns, but who ends up being a total steal, and can defend multiple positions
     
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    I never follow College BBall - I try to catch up between Portland ending play and the draft, so these will be guesses:
    The Taj Gibson - Rakeem Christmas
    The Paul Millsap - Alan Williams (UCSB) (Because Richaun Holmes would be too obvious)
    The Marcus Camby - Willie Cauley-Stein
    The Pops Mensah-Bonsu - Montrezl Harrell
    The Draymond Green - Branden Dawson (this is more because he's a very versatile defender from Michigan State, but he has very little offense to speak of. However, if he goes undrafted, I hope we're the first people on the phone to him)
     
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    Presumably Cameron Payne is supposed to be the Damian this year, although he's more like The Elfrid Payton, who was last year's Curry/Lillard. If you follow that.
     
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    The Jerome Kersey- Very athletic with small hands and a big heart from a small girl’s school with a very new men’s BB program.
     
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    That's pretty specific...

    But here's a guy who's second in the NCAA in PER, won't get drafted, is absurdly athletic and is seen playing against Longwood (Jerome's school) in this video:
    Javonte Green
     
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    The Joe Alexander: Mario Hezonja

    The Tony Allen: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

    The Taj Gibson: Aaron White

    The Shelden Williams: Trey Lyles

    The Paul Millsap: Tyler Harvey

    The Paul Pierce: Stanley Johnson

    The Steph Curry: RJ Hunter

    The Tyson Chandler: Karl Towns

    The Draymond Green: Brandon Ashley

    The Larry Hughes: Emmanuel Mudiay
     
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    Here's a category full of so many young players I can't count them. The tallest guy in the league, who also moves like a guard.

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    The Clarence Weatherspoon: undersized PF whom everybody says can either play SF or be the next Charles Barkley, but turns out, can't. -- Jarrell Martin

    The Pavel Podkolzine: nobody knows if he can play but check out the measurements!!! -- Rakeem Christmas

    The Joe Alexander: Look how high he can jump! Oh, the upside! -- Pat Connaughton

    The Tony Allen: fairly inept on O but so ferocious on perimeter D that it makes up for it. -- Montrezl Harrell: Not a perimeter defender but this describes how I think he'll translate.

    The Taj Gibson: "he's too old!" "Very low ceiling!" Drops to the low first/early second and turns out to be a very good rotation player. -- Delon Wright

    The Shelden Williams: Puts up great numbers for a great program and gets drafted way too high. -- Kevon Looney: Not great numbers, but solid: 12/9/22PER -- a few years away from being a few years away. Maybe Trey Lyles?

    The Paul Pierce: the surprise slipper who comes back to be great -- R.J. Hunter
     
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