Here are the NBA player ranks released so far from ESPN; https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32239384/nbarank-2021-ranking-best-players-2021-22-100-51 https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32244615/nbarank-2021-ranking-best-players-2021-22-50-26 Utah and Atlanta have 6 players in the top 100, Portland has 5, and 13 teams have 4. EDIT see lists in posts 9-12 below. Here are the prior discussions in the around the NBA thread http://www.sportstwo.com/posts/5233286/
If you're going to list Kawhi as a top 25 despite his apparent exclusion, you probably should also include Jamal Murray in Denver's list as at least top 50.
Good point I forgot about Murray. I wasn't trying to make my own top25 list, I was trying to project ESPNs and it appears they removed Kawhi but I listed him because I wasn't certain.
I think you can make a pretty easy argument for 10-11 guys ahead of him. Especially if his defense continues to decline.
Butler was ranked 14th and he carried Miami to the finals... most players around the top10 can do that if they have the right teammates, situations, and a bit of luck.
They released 25-6 https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32249592/nbarank-2021-ranking-best-players-2021-22-25-6 Rank Player Team 1 Durant BRK 2 Antetokounmpo MIL 3 James LAL 4 Doncic DAL 5 Curry GSW 6 Jokic DEN 7 Embiid PHI 8 Lillard PDX 9 Davis LAL 10 Harden BRK 11 Beal WSH 12 George LAC 13 Paul PHX 14 Tatum BOS 15 Booker PHX 16 Butler MIA 17 Young ATL 18 Mitchell UTH 19 Middleton MIL 20 Irving BRK 21 Adebayo MIA 22 Holiday MIL 23 Williams NOP 24 Towns MIN 25 Gobert UTH 26 Ingram NOP 27 Brown BOS 28 Simmons PHI 29 Westbrook LAL 30 McCollum PDX 31 Morant MEM 32 Thompson GSW 33 LaVine CHI 34 Fox SAC 35 Ayton PHX 36 Gilgeous-Alexander OKC 37 Green GSW 38 Siakam TOR 39 Vucevic CHI 40 Sabonis IND 41 Porter DEN 42 Randle NYK 43 Lowry MIA 44 Turner IND 45 DeRozan CHI 46 Harris PHI 47 Ball CHA 48 Conley UTH 49 Smart BOS 50 Porzingis DAL 51 Hield SAC 52 Edwards MIN 53 Grant DET 54 Collins ATL 55 Capela ATL 56 VanVleet TOR 57 Ball CHI 58 Hayward CHA 59 Sexton CLE 60 Wood HOU 61 Allen CLE 62 Ingles UTH 63 Russell MIN 64 Bogdanovic ATL 65 Brogdon IND 66 Bridges PHX 67 Bogdanovic UTH 68 Dinwiddle WSH 69 Gordon DEN 70 Walker NYK 71 Jackson MEM 72 Anunoby TOR 73 Haliburton SAC 74 Nurkic PDX 75 Harris BRK 76 Cunningham DET 77 Wiggins GSW 78 Brooks MEM 79 Hardaway DAL 80 LaVert IND 81 Rozier CHA 82 Markkanen CLE 83 Murray SAS 84 Garland CLE 85 Wall HOU 86 Graham NOP 87 Bridges CHA 88 Curry PHI 89 Covington PDX 90 Clarkson UTH 91 Rose NYK 92 Robinson MIA 93 Robinson NYK 94 Valanciunas NOP 95 Huerter ATL 96 Green HOU 97 Barton DEN 98 Adams MEM 99 Gallinari ATL 100 Powell PDX
sorted by team Rank Player Team 17 Young ATL 54 Collins ATL 55 Capela ATL 64 Bogdanovic ATL 95 Huerter ATL 99 Gallinari ATL 14 Tatum BOS 27 Brown BOS 49 Smart BOS 10 Harden BRK 20 Irving BRK 75 Harris BRK 1 Durant BRK 47 Ball CHA 58 Hayward CHA 81 Rozier CHA 87 Bridges CHA 33 LaVine CHI 39 Vucevic CHI 45 DeRozan CHI 57 Ball CHI 59 Sexton CLE 61 Allen CLE 82 Markkanen CLE 84 Garland CLE 50 Porzingis DAL 79 Hardaway DAL 4 Doncic DAL 6 Jokic DEN 41 Porter DEN 69 Gordon DEN 97 Barton DEN 53 Grant DET 76 Cunningham DET 32 Thompson GSW 37 Green GSW 77 Wiggins GSW 5 Curry GSW 60 Wood HOU 85 Wall HOU 96 Green HOU 40 Sabonis IND 44 Turner IND 65 Brogdon IND 80 LaVert IND 12 George LAC 9 Davis LAL 29 Westbrook LAL 3 James LAL 31 Morant MEM 71 Jackson MEM 78 Brooks MEM 98 Adams MEM 16 Butler MIA 21 Adebayo MIA 43 Lowry MIA 92 Robinson MIA 19 Middleton MIL 22 Holiday MIL 2 Antetokounmpo MIL 24 Towns MIN 52 Edwards MIN 63 Russell MIN 23 Williams NOP 26 Ingram NOP 86 Graham NOP 94 Valanciunas NOP 42 Randle NYK 70 Walker NYK 91 Rose NYK 93 Robinson NYK 36 Gilgeous-Alexander OKC 8 Lillard PDX 30 McCollum PDX 74 Nurkic PDX 89 Covington PDX 100 Powell PDX 7 Embiid PHI 28 Simmons PHI 46 Harris PHI 88 Curry PHI 13 Paul PHX 15 Booker PHX 35 Ayton PHX 66 Bridges PHX 34 Fox SAC 51 Hield SAC 73 Haliburton SAC 83 Murray SAS 38 Siakam TOR 56 VanVleet TOR 72 Anunoby TOR 18 Mitchell UTH 25 Gobert UTH 48 Conley UTH 62 Ingles UTH 67 Bogdanovic UTH 90 Clarkson UTH 11 Beal WSH 68 Dinwiddle WSH
# of top100 players on each team; UTH 6 ATL 6 PDX 5 NOP 4 CHA 4 BRK 4 CLE 4 MIA 4 NYK 4 CHI 4 PHI 4 DEN 4 PHX 4 GSW 4 IND 4 MEM 4 DAL 3 SAC 3 MIL 3 MIN 3 TOR 3 HOU 3 BOS 3 LAL 3 DET 2 WSH 2 LAC 1 SAS 1 OKC 1
Team - Average ranking of top 100 player - # of top 100 players LAC 12.0 1 LAL 13.7 3 MIL 14.3 3 BRK 26.5 4 BOS 30.0 3 PHX 32.3 4 OKC 36.0 1 GSW 37.8 4 WSH 39.5 2 PHI 42.3 4 MIA 43.0 4 CHI 43.5 4 DAL 44.3 3 MIN 46.3 3 UTH 51.7 6 SAC 52.7 3 DEN 53.3 4 TOR 55.3 3 IND 57.3 4 NOP 57.3 4 PDX 60.2 5 ATL 64.0 6 DET 64.5 2 CHA 68.3 4 MEM 69.5 4 CLE 71.5 4 NYK 74.0 4 HOU 80.3 3 SAS 83.0 1
Giannis Durant Curry Lebron (will turn 37 this year and has missed 60 games the last 3 seasons) Harden Jokic (Dame outplayed him in the playoffs; his teammates let him down) AD - can't stay healthy Kawhi - is hurt again Doncic - debatable if durability means anything, no, there's are not 10 players better
I've always understood homerism, don't respect it, but understand it. On a side note, the list I just looked at on ESPN had Dame at #8, 2 spots ahead of Harden at 10. And if anybody has any reason to gripe it's Kyrie. They have HIM at 20 and Beal at 11?????!!!?? Fuck outta' here with that!
Why? I'd take Beal ahead of Kyrie every day of the weak just because of availability and culture reasons alone. Kyrie is more efficient, but put Beal next to the guys Irving has played with (Tatum/KD/Harden/Lebron/etc) and I'm sure you'd see the same from Brad.
