Fire Stotts Eventually

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Dec 20, 2016.

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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

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  4. Needs to go!

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  5. He's the very best!

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  6. Lets hope he continues to improve.

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  1. e_blazer

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    I tried to get him to adopt me, but it didn't work.
     
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    Sorry. That's what I meant. Thanks,
     
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    Nothing is for sale right now,” said Chris McGowan. “We are operating business as usual and Neil and I are collaborating regularly with her on all major organizational decisions.”

    Not exactly a statement of long term intent to continue ownership as it is.
     
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    I would counter with:

    Not exactly a statement with intent to sell eventually either.
     
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    Question. Does anyone have an accurate grasp on the gross vs net operations for the last decade?

    Is there a chance Jodi was initially for selling, but then dove into the numbers and details and is realizing this is a pretty successful franchise and maybe wants to keep it now as a continued investment? Or are the Blazers losing money every year and there is no potential profitable opportunities for her in the future?
     
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    I wasn't saying that Billups couldn't end up being great but no one can definitively say he'd be great right now.

    As for the "Players GM" thing, couldn't one argue that Dame liking certain people and players is part of the problem as to why things are staying status quo? He has backed Stotts every time this comes up. His friendship with CJ likely is the reason he hasn't been traded. He went to Allen last year and asked him not to trade Ed Davis who we could've gotten something for and let walk for nothing anyway. Trading him would've allowed us to keep Vonleh too.

    I'm not blaming Dame necessarily but I'm not sure someone who is going to be friends with him is the best strategy for getting changes. I do think Billups could have some pull with free agents. I was for bringing in Billups until this past summer league where he announced a lot of games and every player seemed to be "really good" and deserving of a spot in the NBA. I just wasn't impressed with some of his player evaluations.
     
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    I don't have any actual info. But I believe that they've been turning a profit for a while. I also believe that, with the continued mediocrity of Olshey/Stotts decimating fan interest coupled with the amount of money invested in the roster, the team is going to start losing money fairly quickly unless something is done to reignite fan interest. Next summer will make or break the next 5-10 years.
     
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    Thanks for that. Kinda what I am thinking regarding the past, but that is great insight for the future as well...and very plausible. With that said, when I go to sell tickets to games I cant make, I'm still turning a profit on them, so currently the fan base is still wanting to see the team, but I totally get the turn off aspect.

    I'm sure Jodi is surrounding herself with NBA financial advisers on this, which scares me. If its all bout the dollars and cents, a sports franchise is too unstable and she will sell. If it has anything to do with sentimentality (highly doubtful) then she will probably hang onto the team if she isn't seeing numbers deep in the red.
     
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    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    Look man, he played on a Championship Team and has the experience, He knows which player you need to be succesful, i bet he knows more about roster construction than 90% of the GM's in this League. Like scalma said someone will give him a chance in the future and this team should be the Blazers
     
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    Playing on a championship team doesn't mean shit when it comes to being a GM. He could be really good or really bad. The point is no one in this forum can possibly know that.
     
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    The same argument was made on behalf of Derek Fisher being a head coach, or Steve Kerr as a GM (in Phoenix). Sometimes being a cerebral player on a title team means you'll be good in other positions; more often than not, it doesn't.
     
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    Very true. Every coach and GM gets a first break somewhere. Even the ones who wind up enjoying long-term success often struggle that first time around. It's a sad comment that our team has to even consider that sort of gamble. Under a generous owner like PA, this should have been a plum job. If it wasn't seen as a desirable job before, the current uncertainty must put us at the bottom of the barrel.
     
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    Danny Ainge?

    Chauncey was always a very smart player, and a PG. The way he talks about the game he seems to know what he's doing. I also think he'd be aggressive, and it's the type of GM who could actually sell free agents.
     
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    Yes, there examples of it working out both ways.
     
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    GarPax is the worst duo in any front office.

    We dont need a drill sargeant.

    Maybe I see the issues because I'm consistently logging possessions, but we have basically no action that ends up with someone putting pressure towards the rim unless it's an isolation. Where 28th in assists per game after being 30th last year. We run the same pick n roll defense for Rajon Rondo as we do for Steph Curry. We chase guys over pick n rolls even if were at a horrible angle to do so. Thats a few examples. How are any of those things due to a lack of talent? How couldn't a different head coach fix any of those things? This is what I want changes in.
     
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    Quick? Compared to long changes? I've been asking for this for two years now. How are we asking for a quick change?

    Right now, the coaching cant get worse. David Vanterpool would be a solid interim and I think we'd improve under him.
     
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    Chauncey is more GM material than both of those guys combined.
     
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    Quick, as in moves to improve the roster from this moment in time, not from when you got the notion that you wanted a change. Unless you've got a time machine, that's not particularly helpful. ;)

    And, I was referring to the increasing call around here for Neil's head, since he's the GM who is responsible for this roster.

    Edit: Oops. Wrong thread, my bad. This one is about both Terry and Neil.
     
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    Wouldn't any change qualify as "quick"?
     
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    Chauncey Billups is being very overrated. He gave a player evaluation a few days ago and I'm like WTF are you talking about?
     
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