Is there some similarity between Vinnie Del Negro at the start of his Bulls tenure and Fred (who doesn't go by Freddy) Hoiberg at the start of his that inclines him to be a coaching mis-hire that I'm missing? At this point in his career, we could just as surely call him Fred Thiboberg. No one knows. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...q-a-bulls-spt-0705-20150704-story.html#page=1
Del Negro never coached in the NBA. Hoiberg's never coached in the NBA. Del Negro had NBA front office experience. Hoiberg had NBA front office experience. They are identical twins. I'm surprised you can't see the resemblance.
Vinny Del Negro is an average replacement level coach. As of now, that's how I see Hoiberg. No real value add. We'll see one way or the other soon enough. If Freddy Del Hoiberg turns out to be a value-added coach, he'll stop being Freddy Del Hoiberg. As the inventor of term, I get to define it, and that is its definition.
I was so blind. Not fraternal twins, identical twins. Oh wait, Vinnie had zero head coaching experience, but that's not true of Hoiberg...
That's a really silly way to judge. Stupid even. Hoiberg brings an offensive system that most pundits and critics expect to improve the team on that side of the ball. In exactly which universe is that not a value add. Just a silly, empty-headed, intellectually dishonest and almost stupid way to judge an incoming head coach.
Wow, that's pretty harsh. I guess I'll have to adjust my opinion. Hmm, on second thought, no, I won't There is nothing to judge him on until he starts actually coaching in the NBA. His NCAA team just got bounced out in the first round to a lesser team. Ick. He might be good. He might be bad. We'll know soon enough. Until then, he's Vinny Del Hoiberg.
No, he's one of the all-time great coaches. Great track record. What has Hoiberg done in the NCAA again? His team made it to the sweet sixteen once in 5 seasons. That's like a NCAA version of Vinny Del Negro. We'll see if he's any better in the pros. He could be. Given that he has 0 experience, its hard really to have much of any opinion. The safe bet is that he's a replacement level coach.
Further explain to me why he's a great coach. What are the accomplishments I'm missing? Give me the complete Del Hoiberg analysis. I posted a thread about this a while back. All anyone could come up with is that he won the Big 12 tournament twice and that he took a college team from sucky to decent. I guess that pretty good. But, just like the NBA playoffs, all anyone really cares about is the Big Dance. We'll see soon enough how good a NBA coach he is. He very well might be great.
No one said great, please stop the strawman arguments. And lets not shift the subject before answering the question at hand.
I'll settle for a partial analysis from you. Come on, just a partial. Talk up Freddy. What has he accomplished?
Yah, didn't think you would provide one. * made the sweet sixteen once in 5 years * won the big 12 tournament twice * took a team from bad to decent Add to it. I started it for you.
What about the offensive sets he ran, and his ability to take advantage of mismatches? (Feel free to use this thread as a crib sheet if needed.) What are your thoughts about that? How does it match up with the personnel on the roster? What about his 'soft' skills?
I was hoping you would provide an analysis, not just link to what other people say and ask questions. What do you think of his soft skills? Do you have any opinion on them or anything to add that you think of yourself? Given he has no experience coaching in the NBA and the NCAA to NBA is apples to oranges pretty much, I really don't know how he will motivate the players and if he can run a drama free locker room and get the players to play hard for him. He has no experience at that. I am admittedly not great at translating NCAA ball to NBA, as I don't watch it. We'll see how his offensive sets do soon enough at the pro level. Why do you think what he did in college will do well in the NBA. Do you have any thoughts? What are they? I'm taking a wait and see approach. What is your opinion (if any)? My understanding is that he's somewhat well known for taking NBA schemes already used in the NBA and applying them to college ball, which is considered innovative. Not that he has anything really innovative of his own, on a NBA level, to apply, but please show me otherwise if I'm mistaken. The Bulls were 11th in the NBA in offensive EFF last season, so he'll have to do a really good job to meaningfully improve upon that, as the offense was pretty good last season. I think most expect the Bulls to take a step back on defense, but that also remains to be seen.
