Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Chris Craig, Nov 23, 2021.
CJ was horrendous. Sucks he’s that selfish when Nukic is on fire.
need a pickmeup!? Lol.
Bad loss should have won. cj with a terrible game.
You're really comparing Melo to CJ in regard to Melo ever having as many assists? Yeah that's what Melo was here for...assists lol. Melo had one job here.
Not trying to argue, but weren't you the one tweeting Dame instructions on how to fix his jumpshot like a few weeks ago?
Once again we reverted to too much "hero ball" and forced bad shots from our guards late in the game. Nas hardly touched the ball on offense in the 4th qtr and he was playing such a good game and driviing to the hoop really well, Nurk and Norm had great games and when those 3 are playing so well why not keep them involved more and keep the ball moving? I just don't get Dame's and CJ's mentalities at times, IMO that likely cost us the game. Yeah the game before both were on fire
and how bout getting Nas some touches in the 2nd half and especially 4th qtr - he hardly touched the ball and was driving inside really well, hero ball pisses me off, so tired of it
[Narrator] "It turned out they didn't got this."
Where was all this CJ hate last game? Oh that's right - he was our best player in a win.
And everyone saying "trade him" but nobody comes up with remotely plausible trades that would improve the team.
Oh no, I’m just a measly poster on the RipCityTwo forum. He should definitely hire BonesJones from the RipCityTwo forum who also has a YouTube channel which means he knows EVERYTHING about NBA basketball. You even had the audacity to tell Dame how to fix his jump shot a few weeks back. I’m glad Dame was watching and listened to you. Looks like his jumper is back now.
Every one of those wins have an "*" by it for missing key players or being on a B2B. Sorry not impressed at this point. Blazers need to continue to improve and they need to upgrade the roster a bit.
Unfortunately true, Billups is all talk no action on this topic
Well it's like this our 2 guards going get there shots up no matter what it's going to be like that. I don't care if they have 1 assist or 10 assist there still going put 18 to 20 shoots a game. It doesn't matter if there hot or cold and doesn't matter if other players got going that night. One thing I was looking at Billups was he was able reign these 2 guards in when there shots wasn't going in some nights and that to me hasn't happened so far this year. We winning at home so far but can tell you right we are not going win them all at home and maybe we don't loose them all the road but this as show yet the mentality that they are going be threat this year. The reason they might make the playoffs or even the play-in is not we are good it's just there enough teams that worst then us for us to make it.
Season after season after season after season. Bigger picture my friend. No one arguing that CJ can get hella hot at times and is an amazing shot creator. But the much bigger picture is how he fits with Dame when they are both ball dominant, smallish, poor defensive guards, and time after time, MeJ will continue to shoot ignoring teammates who are on fire....while he is bricking up a storm. Last night was just the last in a long line of examples.
A bunch of people piling on CJ for a number of reasons and yes the criticism is warranted but it wasn't just him.
Roco- Played 15 minutes. (Less than usual). Got the "Total Zeros" on the box. Except for +/- which was -2
Nance really didn't well either but when he was on the court at least the team played pretty well. 5 points and 4 rebounds isn't blowing up a stat line.
Lillard didn't shoot particularly well either. He was getting to the line. Probably the saving grace for him. Without 15 points from free throws this is a blowout loss.
Snell played 5 mins and was a complete O fer on everything as well.
Zeller 10 mins and 2 points. Gotta give him credit for playing better and he grabbed 4 rebounds.
Smith Jr 20 mins 3 points.
Been the story all year. The rest of the team doesn't show up on the road. Nurk played a great game but you got to play a complete team game on the road.
Maybe the less than usual 15 minutes that RoCo played was the result of him being ejected at the end of the 1st half…
A major part if it is finding a team that would:
A) want him
B) will give reasonable value (something like Osman & Markkanen from Cleveland)
C) have contracts that will match trade restrictions
I've gone through the league rosters 3 or 4 time looking for something that I think both teams would entertain.... I haven't found a good solution
"The rest of the team." What?
Powell, Nurk, Dame and Nas scored 98 points on 61 shots. Seems quite efficient from quite a number of the team. Not everyone is going to have a big game and you had plenty of players scoring very well. The problem is, CJ just HAD to jack up a team high, game high 20 shots thereby depriving TEAMMATES who were scoring very efficiently from getting shots that they were converting at a much higher rate.
100%. The three of Nurk, Nas and Norm needed more touches. They were great all fantastic. The only problem is that if Dame doesn't force it up, you have CJ who will. The only way to break this is by ending this unity.
We desperately need to trade CJ for Siakam or Simmons or even Ingraham.
One of the reasons I think Simmons would be so good here is that he wouldn't demand so many shots. He is averaging 11.6 shots per game for his career vs CJ who is 18+ for the past 6 seasons. Simmons actually has a higher eFG% than CJ even though he can't shoot from the outside a lick.
His ability to be an elite decision maker (higher assist average than Dame) and elite multi-positional defender fits in perfectly with what Portland needs. Then take the 6 shots he isn't taking and distribute them to Powell, Nurk, Ant and Nas and we are a much more balanced team on offense and markedly better on defense.
Does that include the ones you have suggested? As you previously pointed out (Rubio trade discussion), a "plausible" deal might not be "palatable" to Olshey and/or the average fan.
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