Harrison Dang Diddily Do Damn Diddily Darn Barnes

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  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    We will regret passing on the BPA in this draft. Barnes is an elite athlete with a game made for the NBA. A clear cut superior college prospect, nearly every team in the league would've taken Barnes over the player we took. I'll closely follow Barnes during the next year and expect it to be quite painful.

    It's hard being a lifelong fan of a franchise that makes the same repeated mistakes. Martell over CP3 and Deron because we had Telfair. Bowie over Jordan since we had Clyde. Lillard over Barnes since we might have Batum. It's going to be a long, long season. The John Nash Era 2.0 has begun!
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I agree.

    This was a huge blunder. With CLE rumored to be offering Nic a huge contract Barnes was the BPA and filled a need.

    Golden State, you're welcome.
     
    Fez Hammersticks, Jun 28, 2012
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    oh, free agency started already? interesting.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I totally disagree with you, Damian Lillard will be the best player in this draft, just you watch!
     
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    Sinobas, Jun 28, 2012
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Barnes is a tremendously flawed player. He's never played up to his athleticism and his production never matched up to the initial hype of his prospectdom. I'd say that someone like Martell Webster is a pretty good comparison actually: a guy who looked like a great prospect on paper, but wasn't able to put it together on the actual court.

    I think this is an excellent article about him, from Grantland:

    I don't think Barnes is certain to fail at the NBA level, but I don't think he's any kind of elite prospect or a terrible pass-over.
     
    Minstrel, Jun 28, 2012
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I agree Draco...

    But most of the posters here go out of there way to defend the mistakes of this organization, no matter how bad the picks are....

    FOUR drafts in a row where POR has flailed and picked the wrong guys....and somehow we are supposed to feel vindicated a year from now?

    hardly....All I feel is sad for the laughingstock that this organization has become....
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    To me, Lillard was the BPA. Now maybe I'm a fucking retard, but it seems like the people who actually make the decisions may have agreed with me.
     
    VanillaGorilla, Jun 28, 2012
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    In 2-3 years Drummond will be who we regret passing on.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I don't understand how you guys can be so sure the Blazers completely fucked up when none of these guys have even playing a second in an NBA game yet.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Which Blazers fans? Most "Blazers fans'" predictions and selections have been terrible. There was a sizeable contingent that wanted Adam Morrison, that thought Webster was the best pick, thought trading Andre Miller for Raymond Felton was a great deal, etc. Considering that "Blazers fans" as a group can make about 20 different selections for one draft pick, it's not exactly surprising that one of those 20 ended up being the "right" one.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    That is what bugs me about the Lillard pick. In the past, Blazers have been burned when picking for need. Olshey comes in and says BPA regardless of position and many were happy to hear that. In the end Olshey can talk until he is blue justifying this was the BPA and tiers and blah blah blah. . . this was a need based pick. We aren't stupid here in Ptd. Maybe need outweighed the difference between the two players, but don't tell us position doesn't matter in the draft, it clearly mattered.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Probably not ... but if he does pan out then we'll regret not taking him much MUCH more badly than we'll regret passing on Harrison Barnes -- If that guy makes it? Jesus he'll be a terror.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Very true ... but in the end it's always mattered.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    You mean the same guys that picked


    Claver?

    Babbitt & Armon?

    Nolan Smith?

    I have ZERO faith in those idiots..........
     
    Blaze01, Jun 28, 2012
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  15. HailBlazers

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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    All comes down to Batum Resigning with the Blazers. And of-course if Lillard can become a starter in this league.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Olshey didn't pick any of them, and Babbitt was the only lottery pick.

    (Just calling Babbitt a lottery pick makes me feel icky.. Hopefully I don't feel that way about Leonard in 2 years.)
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Um, Neil Olshey. Ever heard of him?

    At least keep your bs straight.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    I've been a vocal advocate of BPA, but need should be a consideration when you have guys who are about evenly graded. If there's a talent disparity, take the better guy and use free agency and trades to "even out" the roster. But it's not always possible to deal a player for exactly equal value at another position, so if guys are about equally talented (in your evaluation), it's much more efficient to take the guy who better fills a need.
     
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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    Bingo.
     
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  20. VanillaGorilla

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    Re: Harrison FUCKING Barnes

    It's the tier system.. Presumably Barnes and Lillard were both in the same tier according to Blazers scouts and Olshey. Within the tier, you draft on need.
     
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