Is Chauncey a good coach?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Gimmick-hungry yob

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    I'm starting to think he's not the savior he was made out to be.
     
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    This is a terribly constructed roster and the one great thing about the roster hasn't been able to get it going. So without Dame and with this mismatched collection of talent, how do you judge Chauncey as a coach? You can't. Due to Dame not being Dame we can't even compare him to Stotts and it wouldn't even be the right time to compare him to Stotts sense the previous coach had nine years to implement his ideals and this coach has had two months.
     
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    Would Becky Hammon been the savior that some have made her out to be?
     
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    At this point I wouldn't be shocked to learn that Olshey deliberately built a roster that can't be coached into playing the way Billups wants. He needed a new fall guy, so he set Billups up to fail.
     
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    No.
     
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    Nobody would be the savior, because no coach would be successful with this roster. Stotts may not have been a great coach, but he was mediocre decoration on a ship with lots of leaks--easy to change, but changing it is not going to do anything to keep the ship from sinking.

    As for whether Billups is a good coach, there's no way to say. He's had a few games with a poor roster. This is why some coaches believe you shouldn't always take the first job offered--if it's to coach a bad roster, the stink of your failure with it may not come off enough for you to get a second chance.
     
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    I don't know about deliberately but Olshey definitely doesn't have the guys on his roster to carry out Chauncey's defensive philosophies. These guys aren't quick enough to switch and make the rotations on the perimeter or tough enough to defend when switched down low. That being said their defense wasn't sound enough individually to close out on three pointers before. Both of your starting guards can't be shitty defenders. In today's league if you're going to have a dinosaur 5 like Nurk then you have to put the right players around him to make that work and we haven't. We lack both length and quickness... so yeah Olshey hasn't done Chauncey any favors but I don't think Olshey knows how to.
     
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    We'll find out when somebody gives her a job. But she had at least Summer League experience - more than Chauncey had.
     
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    I'm startin to think that having 3 guards in the starting lineup, and a 6'7" PF (who sucks) and a soft ass center has a lot to do with why they're sucking and not the coach.
     
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    Chauncey isn't the problem....it's poor shooting and passing and rebounding hustle that kill this team's momentum in these losses...the team is not executing well yet..which makes the coach look bad....I mean when Dame scores 4 pts in a game...it's not pretty and Roco and Nance can't shoot for shit....our role players are giving us empty possession after empty possession....can't win that way....that's why Chauncey played the 3rd string for almost 7 minutes tonight..our rotation guys sucked all game other than Nas and CJ in stretches
     
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    Here we go. Give him a season at least. Two seasons is my thinking.
     
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    And yet this was true last season and everyone got excited when the coach was fired. After a series against... The Nuggets.
     
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    Says the guy who just wondered if he was Mo Cheeks. Was giving Mo Cheeks two seasons the right move or a waste of everyone's time?
     
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    Of course, it doesn't matter what any of us think. But I wonder what Dame thinks.
     
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    Too early to blame Chauncey but I also don’t buy it’s the roster construction part either. I blame players for the most part. Although if I had to submit a way too early coaching grade for Billups it wouldn’t be very good. Play Little more. Yank guys. Where’s all that accountability we heard about.
     
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    Oh for that Green font stuff. I absolutely need to figure out everyone here thinks everything written is serious.
     
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    9 years of mediocrity is a little more damning than 14 games.
     
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    Yea we definitely fucked up with this hire. I was wrong myself
     
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    Then why take the job? Billups has declined jobs before
     
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    How about we get better at assessing our failures quickly, and not waiting for wasted years.
     
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