Is Dame the modern version of Stephon Marbury?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    All this talk about Dame and his value has made me reflect on what Dame has accomplished, his limitations, and his future in Portland.

    I love Dame, he is my favorite player on the team, and I think we are lucky to have him. With that said, all this talk (erroneously) about him being on the market has made me think about his value. Something made me think about Stephon Marbury, and how he was once a highly coveted offensive minded point guard. He bounced around the league from Minnesota to New Jersey to Phoenix and then to New York. He was never able to really elevate his team, despite putting up some decent numbers, and he fizzled out after the Knicks tried to make him into their conquering hero.

    Dame is a better offensive player than Marbury, but Steph was a better passer, and their defense is pretty comparable. Will Dame be a guy who is the best player on a crappy team, and eventually bounce around because his team wants something more?

    I ran a comparison of the two players through age 26. At that point Marbury had been in the league a few years longer than Dame, but I thought age was more relevant than experience in the league.

    http://bkref.com/tiny/gANjY

    I also think it's interesting that both Dame and Steph started their careers with an All-Star/Superstar big man. Dame inherited the team when LA left and Steph was traded to New Jersey.
     
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    Steph had way more steals and assists.
     
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    I'm sick of this shit.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Cool. Don't read the thread.

    Bye Felicia.
     
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    Dame's shoes cost WAYYY more!
     
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    I get it, but he's not wrong
     
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    I have made that comparison too. Gilbert Arenas also came to mind.
     
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    Similar stat-wise. Two very different people, personalities. /comparison
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    http://bkref.com/tiny/fEgp8

    Here is that comparison for you.
     
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    Age 26 Stat line:
    Lillard 26/6/5
    Marburg 20/9/3

    TS%:
    Lillard 56%
    Marburg 52%

    OBPM
    Lillard 4.5
    Marburg 3.9

    DBPM
    Lillard -1.7
    Marburg -2.5

    And in terms of locker room presences, they're polar opposites. Marbury got bounced around and bottomed out because he was a hothead. Lillards nothing like that clown.
     
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    You also agreed with something Canzano said yesterday so....
     
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    no.
    add steph curry to your comparisons and a couple of others, too. Otherwise, this thread looks like fancy bitching, which is why it was poorly received by Bones.
     
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    They are basically the same player. Lillard a better FT shooter and Arenas better at getting steals. Holy shit.
     
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    Don't infect the board with this trash then. We already have enough Dame-bashing as it is.

    The oft-injured asshole that brought guns into the locker room?

    Yeah, GREAT comparison.

    This is getting ridiculous.
     
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    So?
     
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    Exactly.

    There's other players that he compares better to, but these dudes only want to compare him to Marbury and Arenas... SMH.
     
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    Name one
     
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    If you can find a way to agree with that asshat...
     
  19. Natebishop3

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    Those are some sweet stats bro! Except I'm talkin cumulatively and you're throwing out single season stats.

    Cumulatively at age 26:

    Lillard 19.7 PER
    Marbury 19.4 PER

    Lillard 110 DRtg
    Marbury 109 DRtg

    Lillard 28.9 AST%
    Marbury 38.5 AST%
     
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    Curry
     

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