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  1. lilguy1991

    lilguy1991 DYC 1st team Reserves

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Bayern Munich have reached a transfer agreement with Manchester United for England midfielder Owen Hargreaves, Bayern president Franz Beckenbauer said on Sunday.

    "Owen is leaving. That was the player's wish. It's a good match and it's also a good deal financially," Beckenbauer told Germany's DSF sports television network.

    Beckenbauer did not directly confirm media reports that Bayern will get 25 million euros ($33.75 million) for the Canadian-born Hargreaves. But he did say: "It's in that range."

    If confirmed, it would be the highest fee ever for a Bundesliga player.

    Hargreaves, 26, has been pleading with Bayern executives to let him go to United all season in a disappointing year both for him and the club.

    Bayern finished fourth in the Bundesliga and without any silverware after back-to-back league and Cup doubles.

    Bayern had previously rejected United's efforts to acquire Hargreaves before the season and during the mid-season transfer window, saying they were not a bank and needed him.

    Beckenbauer, however, had openly urged his fellow Bayern executives Uli Hoeness and Karl-Heinz Rummenigge to reconsider if the price was right -- arguing that Bayern could use the funds for their own acquisitions.

    Hargreaves played in only nine of 34 Bundesliga matches this season, plus five of their games 10 in the Champions League and one of their three German Cup matches. He did not score.

    Former Bayern coach Felix Magath had hoped Hargreaves could fill the big gap left by Michael Ballack, who went to Chelsea after the end of last season.

    But Hargreaves did not come close, even before breaking his left fibula on Sept. 17 and missing much of the season.

    German media reports said that Hargreaves will sign a four-year agreement worth seven million euros per year at United.

    Hargreaves is the fifth confirmed Bayern departure after the season that ended on Saturday.

    Mehmet Scholl retired, Hasan Salihamidzic will transfer to Juventus while Ali Karimi and Claudio Pizarro will also be leaving -- to destinations still not known.

    Hargreaves was outstanding in England's World Cup quarter-final last year against Portugal, lost on penalties.

    In England, he won the fans' vote as England Player of the Year 2006, the Football Association (FA) said in January after he had alr

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    Link: Hargreaves joining Man Utd, Beckenbauer says - World Soccer - Yahoo! Sports
     
  2. Oranje

    Oranje DYC *********

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    Remember the chants of 'what a waste of money' when carrick went back to tottenham for the 1st time?

    united need a striker, not two halfbacks.
     
  3. twofivefive

    twofivefive DYC Boro for FA Cup 2008.

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    That was quick, but totally expected. They don't really need him, they've got so many midfielders, even though he is defensive minded. Maybe this will be the same as Chelsea buying Ballack and Shevchenko last summer, they won't win the title this coming season.
     
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    The 12th Man DYC Im Cantona i go as i want

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    They didnt need him to be honest. They needed a solid striker up front with Rooney and maybe one more decent Half Back.
     
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    why buy 2 identical players when chances are your only gonna use one at a time.

    Ferguson bought Carrick on the rush and now he's finally got the chance to get Hargreaves he took it. Oh well looks like you ain't getting any other big signings unless the Glazer's put the cash in[​IMG]
     
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    United4ever DYC Manchester United's son

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    We need Gareth Bale and Fernando Torres, they're both guns
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Maxdaman91 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">why buy 2 identical players when chances are your only gonna use one at a time.

    Ferguson bought Carrick on the rush and now he's finally got the chance to get Hargreaves he took it. Oh well looks like you ain't getting any other big signings unless the Glazer's put the cash in[​IMG]</div>


    Will be a set-up of Hargreaves sitting back in front of the defence, Carrick smack-bang in the middle pinging balls out wide (his diagonal passing range is incredible), Scholes going foward mopping up any chances outside the area and slotting throughballs in to a lone striker or give Rooney and Ronaldo free roles to drift left and right as attacking midfielders and have a poaching target man.

    ------------Foster------------
    G. Nev--Rio--Vidic--Evra/Heinze
    ----------Hargreaves----------
    -----Scholes-----Carrick-------
    Ronaldo-----------------Rooney
    ---Torres/Huntelaar/Eto'o/Villa--

    Essentially, a 4-5-1 like we played in the FA Cup final (only it'll be the right players in the right roles, instead of Scholes having to drop back). Ronaldo and Rooney rotating and generally doing whatever they like with a target in the middle. Scholes and Carrick battling in midfield as well as starting or continuing attacks, Carrick covering the centre of defence and breaking up attacks. Scholes isn't a tackling player. He'll pull off the occasional crunching tackle that gets the bal etc but more often than not, he'll fly in and pick a yellow, thus negating him for the rest of the game. You could see it in the FA Cup final after Scholes got yellowed. He was backing out of tackles he'd normally go in to.

    I think it'll take a while to bed-in but that system would work superbly for us and in the premier league in general.
     
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    suppose but surely if SAF is gonna get another striker it would be best playing Rooney and the new striker together up front
     
  9. Big Aaron

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    <div class="quote_poster">Maxdaman91 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">suppose but surely if SAF is gonna get another striker it would be best playing Rooney and the new striker together up front</div>

    Nah, Rooney isn't your traditional striker. Giving him a free role to drift around from right to left and to basically do what he likes is how to get the best from him. Ronaldo is more the traditional winger but he tends to cut inside more once he reaches the final third so those two drifting from wing to wing or down the middle would cause so many problems for defences since down the middle they'd be too quick for central defenders but running at wing-backs and whipping in a cross or a slide-rule pass on the floor causes even more problems, especially if a predator-type player along the lines of Huntelaar or Torres is lurking in the box and Scholes 18-25 yards out for any clearances.
     
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    hmm in that manner you've got an amazing team[​IMG]
     
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    They don't really need hargreaves but if he performs like he did at the world cup he'll be a good addition to united.
     
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    We don't need him. If Hargreaves comes in Fergie has 2 options.

    1. Drop either Carrick (16million) or Hargreaves (17million)
    2. Play 4-5-1

    If Fergie goes for option one, it would be sensless to have a 16/17 million rated player on the bench as a squad rotation player and they themselves wont be happy. Lets not forget, we are not Chelsea.

    If Fergie goes for option 2, the 4-5-1 will be in effect. 4-5-1 is a useless formation for United, Rooney is not an all and out striker, he roams back and forth and our attack will become obselete in a 4-5-1.. ala United vs Chelsea.
     
  13. Big Aaron

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    Flight, look at my last post on the first page. Me and Fergie are on the same wavelength. It'll work surprisingly well for the team and get the best out of all our players.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">soilborn Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Will be a set-up of Hargreaves sitting back in front of the defence, Carrick smack-bang in the middle pinging balls out wide (<font size=""4"">his diagonal passing range is incredible</font>), Scholes going foward mopping up any chances outside the area and slotting throughballs in to a lone striker or give Rooney and Ronaldo free roles to drift left and right as attacking midfielders and have a poaching target man.

    ------------Foster------------
    G. Nev--Rio--Vidic--Evra/Heinze
    ----------Hargreaves----------
    -----Scholes-----Carrick-------
    Ronaldo-----------------Rooney
    ---Torres/Huntelaar/Eto'o/Villa--

    Essentially, a 4-5-1 like we played in the FA Cup final (only it'll be the right players in the right roles, instead of Scholes having to drop back). Ronaldo and Rooney rotating and generally doing whatever they like with a target in the middle. Scholes and Carrick battling in midfield as well as starting or continuing attacks, Carrick covering the centre of defence and breaking up attacks. Scholes isn't a tackling player. He'll pull off the occasional crunching tackle that gets the bal etc but more often than not, he'll fly in and pick a yellow, thus negating him for the rest of the game. You could see it in the FA Cup final after Scholes got yellowed. He was backing out of tackles he'd normally go in to.

    I think it'll take a while to bed-in but that system would work superbly for us and in the premier league in general.</div>


    Your kidding....right?
     
  15. Big Aaron

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    <div class="quote_poster">Anelka Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Your kidding....right?</div>

    Ha, I had this arguement with a Scouser already. His Diagonal passing is superb. His passing percentage is one of the highest in the league. When will people realise how good of a passer Carrick is?
     
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    No one will his passing is over rated, i watch most Man United games and yet he seems to fail doing the most basic pass' back to his centre backs. Numerous occasions i have seen people stretch their legs to reach his passes even if it's 10 yards away (no joke)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Anelka Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No one will his passing is over rated, i watch most Man United games and yet he seems to fail doing the most basic pass' back to his centre backs. Numerous occasions i have seen people stretch their legs to reach his passes even if it's 10 yards away (no joke)</div>

    The pass reaches the intended target, right? Where's your beef then? If it completes, I couldn't give a toss if Rio and Vidic have to run for it. Rio is notriously lazy and Vidic isn't that great at making or receiving passes.

    Scholes and Carrick are the best passing midefiled in the Premiership. The diagonal ball from the halfway line to the corner has become Carrick's best pass. He's the man charged with the ball over the top towards the wingers and/or Rooney and he does that superbly.
     
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    Its because people doubted Carrick when we bought him for 16mil and now they are afraid to admit that he has been very decent this season because they were wrong. Great season for Carrick!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">soilborn Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The pass reaches the intended target, right? Where's your beef then? If it completes, I couldn't give a toss if Rio and Vidic have to run for it. Rio is notriously lazy and Vidic isn't that great at making or receiving passes.

    Scholes and Carrick are the best passing midefiled in the Premiership. The diagonal ball from the halfway line to the corner has become Carrick's best pass. He's the man charged with the ball over the top towards the wingers and/or Rooney and he does that superbly.</div>

    I could pass the ball and scuff it up to the goal? And it Ronaldo is so fast he runs on to it and scores, does that me a good passer, no?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Anelka Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I could pass the ball and scuff it up to the goal? And it Ronaldo is so fast he runs on to it and scores, does that me a good passer, no?</div>

    Has that actually happened? No.
    Has Carrick got one of the best passing completeion rates in the league? Yes.
    Does that make you a clear member of the ABU nation? Yes.
    Is this "debate" finished? Yes.

    Really.
     

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