Hey guys I have been following the output by Marko Jaric so far the season and he seems to be establishing himself much better than previous sesaons. He still has some inconsistenices with doing well in one game and then not really showing up in another, but all his stats have improved on last season so far. I was just wondering what your thoughts are since I do not follow the clips as a team closely enough?
He's improving, but I still think he's better suited to play as a backup PG or SF. In my opinion, he's not a very effective PG at all. I think he'd be a decent role player though in terms of giving some offense off the bench and stuff.
hes probably stepping up his play cuz he dont want to lose his starting job or PT to shaun livingston.
I dont see really improvement of this player. I thought he would be better. I still hope he improves more. Of course he is afraid to loose his place in the starting line-up.
He's an oversized pg, and once he establishes himself as a consistant offensive threat he'll create match up trouble for most teams. He's established himself as a legit three point shooter, but turns the ball over all a lot. He's still fairly new in the league, give him time.
He can't guard quick PG's, and he's not the best playmaker, that's his problems, he's not a starting PG, he's a backup PG/SG/SF Also it has nothing to do with losing his starting job since Livingston is out for probably about 3 months.
His defense is great too, Clippers are winning now so i dont see why you guys said hes not a good starting PG.... he got like 7ast a nite so,,
He's the only guy that can currently run the offense, but the Clippers are leading the league in assists not just because of Jaric, but because the whole team moves the ball and takes good shots, they were on of the assits leaders while he was averaging 3 per game earlier, the fact that everyone makes their shots helps him. Also he's not a good defender, I don't know where you got his defense is great from, please don't tell me from looking at steals, he can't guard the quicker PG's which is almost every PG except for the Zoran Plananic's, and the Charlie Ward's, and the first step in distupting a team's PG creation/offense is stopping the PG dribble penetration. He's good off the ball and at getting steals, but that's about all, he's a better defender at the shooting guard position for the most part, he's at least about average there.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">He's the only guy that can currently run the offense, but the Clippers are leading the league in assists not just because of Jaric, but because the whole team moves the ball and takes good shots, they were on of the assits leaders while he was averaging 3 per game earlier, the fact that everyone makes their shots helps him. Also he's not a good defender, I don't know where you got his defense is great from, please don't tell me from looking at steals, he can't guard the quicker PG's which is almost every PG except for the Zoran Plananic's, and the Charlie Ward's, and the first step in distupting a team's PG creation/offense is stopping the PG dribble penetration. He's good off the ball and at getting steals, but that's about all, he's a better defender at the shooting guard position for the most part, he's at least about average there.</div> og15 is right on the money. Jaric is a poor 1on1 defender, average at best. Alot of his steals are from cutting off the passes and stuff, not from actually shutting the opponent's pgs down. I still contend that he shouldn't be a PG, more like a SG/SF. However, as og15 pointed out, he's the only guy that can run the offense for now..
He dished out 11 assists along with 16 points against the Cavs last night. That's apretty good PG outing I would say. However, the main reason that sparked me to start this thread was looking at his statistics during his years in the NBA and the improvment evident every year.
i may be forcing this topic, but fealt it was still worth an update: Ranks #10 in the NBA in Assists Per Game(6.6) Ranks #9 in the NBA in Assists(119.0) Ranks #5 in the NBA in Steals Per Game(2.17) Ranks #4 in the NBA in Steals(39.0) Comparison to last season: MPG: +5.4 FG%: +0.015 3P%: +0.07 FT%: +0.058 RPG: +0.6 APG: +1.8 SPG: +0.57 BPG: -0.01 TO: +0.19 PPG: +3.8 now i understand what you guys are saying about defense and i agree, but as for the steals, most of the guys leading the steals category would be doing so from anticipating the passing lane as opposed to directly stripping their man.
About the steals you're definately right, the only guy that strips people a lot would be someone like Larry Hughes because of the Wizards pressure defense, but their are players who get steals and are also excellent man to man defenders, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd, Larry Hughes, Speedy Claxton, Shawn Marion, Andre Iguodala, Devin Harris, Bobby Simmons, Earl Watson, Tony Allen, Billups etc... Then their's the guys who aren't that good man to man defenders [or lazy], and get steals from being very good anticipators and/or gambling a lot, Iverson [gamble man], Jamal Crawford, Gilbert Arenas [part of the Wizards system is gambling, but he's lazy on man to man at times], Paul Pierce, Marko Jaric, Tinsley, Q-Rich....and in Rick Brunson's case just no athletic enough, but he's a smarts player anyways. Then their's those who are average to above average man to man defenders and are great at anticipating the ball and picking passing lanes, Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, Manu Ginobili, Rafer Alston, Trevor Ariza Jaric is playing very good though, the system is working with him, but I'd still rather see him as a playmaking SG, as opposed to a PG because he's really just not a PG, but he's doing real good, you need steals to get fastbreak oppurtunities, and with him, Simmons and Brunson, it happens.
link yet another addition. it's a n insider article so i couldn't read it fully, but it looks promising. maybe some of you guys that have membershio can have a read and report back.
