Jets Finalist for T Jon Runyan

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jets | Runyan could decide FridayFri, 24 Mar 2006 05:19:15 -0800Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports free agent OT Jon Runyan (Eagles) could make his decision on where he will sign Friday, March 24. As noted earlier, Runyan has reportedly narrowed his choices to the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets.</div>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 24 2006, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jets | Runyan could decide FridayFri, 24 Mar 2006 05:19:15 -0800Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports free agent OT Jon Runyan (Eagles) could make his decision on where he will sign Friday, March 24. As noted earlier, Runyan has reportedly narrowed his choices to the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets.</div></div>I saw that, and I've been wanting Runyan since the start of the offseason. He'd be the perfect bookend to go with D'Brickashaw for the next few years.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 24 2006, 07:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 24 2006, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jets | Runyan could decide FridayFri, 24 Mar 2006 05:19:15 -0800Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports free agent OT Jon Runyan (Eagles) could make his decision on where he will sign Friday, March 24. As noted earlier, Runyan has reportedly narrowed his choices to the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets.</div></div>I saw that, and I've been wanting Runyan since the start of the offseason. He'd be the perfect bookend to go with D'Brickashaw for the next few years.</div>If we get him, you can basically erase D'Brick from our draft board. Him and Adrian Jones (Who was our best Offensive Lineman last year) would be the starters then IMO.
     
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    [quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='37418' date='Mar 24 2006, 08:13 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='37416' date='Mar 24 2006, 07:52 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='37414' date='Mar 24 2006, 07:26 AM']
    [/quote]I saw that, and I've been wanting Runyan since the start of the offseason. He'd be the perfect bookend to go with D'Brickashaw for the next few years.[/quote]If we get him, you can basically erase D'Brick from our draft board. Him and Adrian Jones (Who was our best Offensive Lineman last year) would be the starters then IMO.[/quote]You can't be serious. Jones was horrid last year. Your optimism outweighs your eyes, assuming you actually paid attention to the line last year. He was our third best O-lineman, and only our 3rd best because Fabini and Mawae were injured. He was a horrid RT, and a slightly less horrid LT.If our franchise decides he's our long-term fix I'll be mortified.
     
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    [quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='37419' date='Mar 24 2006, 08:16 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='37418' date='Mar 24 2006, 08:13 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='37416' date='Mar 24 2006, 07:52 AM'][quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='37414' date='Mar 24 2006, 07:26 AM']
    [/quote]I saw that, and I've been wanting Runyan since the start of the offseason. He'd be the perfect bookend to go with D'Brickashaw for the next few years.[/quote]If we get him, you can basically erase D'Brick from our draft board. Him and Adrian Jones (Who was our best Offensive Lineman last year) would be the starters then IMO.[/quote]You can't be serious. Jones was horrid last year. Your optimism outweighs your eyes, assuming you actually paid attention to the line last year. He was our third best O-lineman, and only our 3rd best because Fabini and Mawae were injured. He was a horrid RT, and a slightly less horrid LT.If our franchise decides he's our long-term fix I'll be mortified.[/quote]Then prepare to be mortified because he was good last year. He manhandled Simeon Rice (except for one play), Patrick Kerney, Aaron Schobel and a few other top Defensive Ends last season. He struggled a little bit (Although most of the Sacks 'against him' were on stunt plays where Goodwin would let the Defensive End run right through), but that will get better as he gets experianced and bigger/stronger as he is currently doing, and as Kendall moves back to the guard.Who would you say was better? Mawae or Kendall who couldnt even manage to snap the ball without it resulting in a fumble? Jonathan "Sack Machine" Goodwin?, Jason "Single-handedly got Pennington and Fiedler injured with my missed assignments" Fabini? The only player I can see an arguement for that played better then Jones is Brandon Moore.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 24 2006, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Then prepare to be mortified because he was good last year. He manhandled Simeon Rice (except for one play), Patrick Kerney, Aaron Schobel and a few other top Defensive Ends last season. He struggled a little bit (Although most of the Sacks 'against him' were on stunt plays where Goodwin would let the Defensive End run right through), but that will get better as he gets experianced and bigger/stronger as he is currently doing, and as Kendall moves back to the guard.Who would you say was better? Mawae or Kendall who couldnt even manage to snap the ball without it resulting in a fumble? Jonathan "Sack Machine" Goodwin?, Jason "Single-handedly got Pennington and Fiedler injured with my missed assignments" Fabini? The only player I can see an arguement for that played better then Jones is Brandon Moore.</div>You touched on why he is so horrible. He can only do 1 thing well: Take on a Bull Rush. All teams have to do is stunt him to death, and he is through. He can take on bull rushers, it's his talent, but his not being able to handle spins and cuts are the reason Brooks Bollinger was constantly looking over his shoulder.1. Moore2. Kendall (his blocking, not his snapping abilities)3. Jones, only because the two below him were injured4. Mawae5. Fabini
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 24 2006, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 24 2006, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Then prepare to be mortified because he was good last year. He manhandled Simeon Rice (except for one play), Patrick Kerney, Aaron Schobel and a few other top Defensive Ends last season. He struggled a little bit (Although most of the Sacks 'against him' were on stunt plays where Goodwin would let the Defensive End run right through), but that will get better as he gets experianced and bigger/stronger as he is currently doing, and as Kendall moves back to the guard.Who would you say was better? Mawae or Kendall who couldnt even manage to snap the ball without it resulting in a fumble? Jonathan "Sack Machine" Goodwin?, Jason "Single-handedly got Pennington and Fiedler injured with my missed assignments" Fabini? The only player I can see an arguement for that played better then Jones is Brandon Moore.</div>You touched on why he is so horrible. He can only do 1 thing well: Take on a Bull Rush. All teams have to do is stunt him to death, and he is through. He can take on bull rushers, it's his talent, but his not being able to handle spins and cuts are the reason Brooks Bollinger was constantly looking over his shoulder.1. Moore2. Kendall (his blocking, not his snapping abilities)3. Jones, only because the two below him were injured4. Mawae5. Fabini</div>The problem with the Stunt plays was that the Defensive End would hit the inside and Jonathan Goodwin was supposed to block the Defensive End in that Scenario then, but instead he would let them run right through for the sack. Adrian Jones reacted fine on the Stunts, it was Goodwin that led to the sacks. Putting Kendall back alongside him will help him out alot since Kendall will be able to pick up the Stunts much better then Goodwin did.He does have some trouble with the quicker Defensive Ends, but word is hes planning on Beefing up to about 312 for next season so that added strength will help him manhandle the DE's IMO.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 24 2006, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The problem with the Stunt plays was that the Defensive End would hit the inside and Jonathan Goodwin was supposed to block the Defensive End in that Scenario then, but instead he would let them run right through for the sack. Adrian Jones reacted fine on the Stunts, it was Goodwin that led to the sacks. Putting Kendall back alongside him will help him out alot since Kendall will be able to pick up the Stunts much better then Goodwin did.He does have some trouble with the quicker Defensive Ends, but word is hes planning on Beefing up to about 312 for next season so that added strength will help him manhandle the DE's IMO.</div>Beefing up will only make him worse. He already has handling the strength rushers down. His problem isn't his strength, it's his footspeed. I'd be more excited if I heard he was playing Tennis.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 24 2006, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Mar 24 2006, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The problem with the Stunt plays was that the Defensive End would hit the inside and Jonathan Goodwin was supposed to block the Defensive End in that Scenario then, but instead he would let them run right through for the sack. Adrian Jones reacted fine on the Stunts, it was Goodwin that led to the sacks. Putting Kendall back alongside him will help him out alot since Kendall will be able to pick up the Stunts much better then Goodwin did.He does have some trouble with the quicker Defensive Ends, but word is hes planning on Beefing up to about 312 for next season so that added strength will help him manhandle the DE's IMO.</div>Beefing up will only make him worse. He already has handling the strength rushers down. His problem isn't his strength, it's his footspeed. I'd be more excited if I heard he was playing Tennis.</div>Kinda half-true.If he can beef up, with keeping the footspeed that he already has. It can only benefit him, it would give him almost a 40-50 pound weight advantage on most of the speed rushers and help him to prevent the speed rushers from even getting to use their quickness as a weapon. Not only that, but im sure hes also doing some sort of aerobic workout to work on the quickness also.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Eagles | Runyan reaches multi-year deal to returnFri, 24 Mar 2006 11:56:40 -0800Adam Caplan, of Pro Football News and Injury Report, reports the Philadelphia Eagles have reached a multi-year deal to retain OT Jon Runyan. Terms of the deal are not currently available.</div>Dont know how much I buy this guy and his sources....but sucks if its true.
     
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    i think Jones did well last year, but Moore was our best Olineman, held down LG all year, while Kendall and MAwae were becoming Geriatric. an oline net year of:DbrickMooreFA CKendallJones/Runyan would be an effective oline
     

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