http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17687375/ Got into a scuffle with Bengal's OL Levi Jones. He should know better than to hang around any member of the Cinci Most Wanted.
An OLB & OT mixing it up. I'm shocked. Bakes pointed out the obvious that he was hanging out w/ Bengal. Another scenario might be he picked up his hooligan behavior from his limited contact w/ Santonio Holmes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bakes781)</div><div class='quotemain'>From eye witness reports Joey won hands down.</div> I can see an OT losing ocassionally on the field to an OLB but in "street fight" where size and girth should be an advantage? I guess Levi isn't a real Bengal more like a.... well you know... something feline.
Porter had SEVEN FREAKING guys attack jones, they jumped his ass! He was also robbed, jewelry was stolen. This is total horse crap, something needs to be done. Levi is a class act, not a dumb ass like porter. levi realized that the second he does something even sounding remotely illegal the media is gonna rail the Bengals again. so he refrained from kicking porters pansy ass, not to mention 7 others were involved in the attack on him!!. I hope to God Porter is their when the Bengals go to Miami this season just so he can get his loud ass mauled. Joey porter needs to have his brutally kicked, i truly would love to see Levi just cut his legs out from under him. http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5938
http://ncaa-fb-scandal.aolsportsblog.com/2...lackjack-table/ First off, FP. Aren't the Bengals your fave AFC team? Allow me a phins fan to be a bit more pragmatic. I've often said that if it weren't for sports that the jails would be really crowded. Further, I have never been a big fan of Porter just search this site. JP told Cam Cameron ASAP. I doubt Levi had to say a word to Marvin or Bengals Management. I bet they check the police blotter 1st thing every morning. [quote name='FLORIDA PACKER']Porter had SEVEN FREAKING guys attack jones, they jumped his ass! He was also robbed, jewelry was stolen.[/quote] I've read that Levi retaliated @ the table which led to the fracas in the parking area. [quote name='FLORIDA PACKER']Levi is a class act, not a dumb ass like porter.[/quote] Are you certain that L Jones is so lily white as you infer? [quote name='FLORIDA PACKER']levi realized that the second he does something even sounding remotely illegal the media is gonna rail the Bengals again.[/quote] I've heard of taking one for the team. Being more worried about public perception than defending yourself is sad JMO. BTW, they are already mentioning the Bengals off field issues. [quote name='FLORIDA PACKER']I hope to God Porter is their when the Bengals go to Miami this season just so he can get his loud ass mauled. Joey porter needs to have his brutally kicked, i truly would love to see Levi just cut his legs out from under him.[/quote] That's classy. These two nimrods have a history of jaw jacking, etc.... If they're <u>both</u> so stupid they can't avoid each other then they have no one to blame but themselves! [quote name='FLORIDA PACKER']This is total horse crap, something needs to be done.[/quote] I agree. Why don't we let the police and the legal system (not the court of public opinion) do their jobs?
Everything Iv'e heard about Levi has been nothing but, good, he's been referred to as one of the truly classy individuals of the Bengals organization. That incident occurred almost 3 years ago. Porter on the other hand is a loud mouth punk who has had some run ins with the law himself as of late(dogs killed some live stock or another dog or something), And his constant over zealous mouth running(such as proclaiming he was going to say something to president bush, when the moron probably doesn't even know a damn thing about politics let alone enough to even make a point to Bush, which is saying alot!). I have no doubt they were jaw jacking, and thats def what set it off, apparently whats been reported thus far is Porter acted and swung at the table first and Levi is said to have taken it outside but Joey's little cliq decided to step in and they actually STOLE Jone's jewelry and Wallet according to reports. Porter needs to be dealt with, and if Levi did more than what has been reported then he deserves to as well. I'll admit that statement i made was very classless its not good to wish injury on anyone, i was very fumed at that moment i apologize. EDIT Some new information floating around suggests that porter sent a guy over the Levi's table with a message, Levi sent someone back to Porter's table with the same. Porter came over to levi's table and initiated the struggle, which resulted in Levi getting hit in the face, and porter being slammed onto the floor. The stuggle ended and then as Levi was leaving Porter and his seven buddies jumped him and took his jewelry while he was on the ground. So Jones did in fact retaliate.
Actually, I don't care who started it and who swung back, they are both acting like classless jerks. I will be watching to see how the Dolphins handle Porter and, if they don't to my satisfaction, I may call or write the team and let them know that as a 30+ year fan of the team, I expect them to hold players to a higher standard and that means taking Porter to the woodshed for this embarrassing display. (I once burnt the ear of a Dolphins PR person over the way the Dolphins were handling Marino when Teflon Dave forced him out, so it wouldn't be the first call I made to the Dolphins HQ.) However, the Bengals need to take care of their own house before they talk about ANY other team or player in the NFL. In my opinion, it takes more than 3 years before a waste of space like Levi Johnson can be called a classy player. Are you kidding me? He tried to take a weapon off of a police officer. That piece of crap is no better than Joey Porter and, right now, my opinion of Joey Porter is lower than it's ever been.
I've heard they were exchanging notes or something. I have also heard that Levi was cheating at cards and that is what set Joey off. Jones IMO does not exactly seem pure as new fallen snow. One of the classiest people in the Cincy organization? Gee! That's almost like being the least stinky piece of trash near the top of the dump. Porter is a.... you can fill in the blank. Should he be put in the same class as Ray Lewis, OJ Simpson, Paul Hornung, Pete Rose, Simon (Islanders hockey player), etc...? I'll let y'all decide. Like I said, I am going to let the cops & courts do their job. I am conflicted as I don't have the highest opinion of JP. Yet, its good to have someone w/ some attitude on the Team. Well, since Bryan Cox anyway. The emotion and passion of Seau didn't inspire the phins and can only hope Joey P can "motivate" the D and O as I am getting sick and tired of this soft underachieving bunch of choirboys that attempt to consider themselves a football team. Nothing earth shattering will happen legally or within either organization. At least, the general public will never know. The media will report a watered down, sanitized version of the truth that both franchises, their legal counsel, the league, its PR machine, the LV justice system, & the players (of couse) can agree on.
I love how some of you are defending this fools action. Eyewitness accounts said taht Joey Porter made first initial physical action and you are still defending him. Cheating at cards, CARDS? who cares, then don;t play wth him, take your money and leave. The dolphins overpaid and recieved a trouble maker, wasn;t this guy SHOT a couple of years ago. Enjoy
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>I love how some of you are defending this fools action. Eyewitness accounts said taht Joey Porter made first initial physical action and you are still defending him. Cheating at cards, CARDS? who cares, then don;t play wth him, take your money and leave. The dolphins overpaid and recieved a trouble maker, wasn;t this guy SHOT a couple of years ago. Enjoy</div> Who is defending Porter's actions? BA and I have said that we aren't happy with this behavior. Could you show us some quotes to back up your baseless accusations? I don't mind debating issues, but it irks me to have to refute comments about things that I NEVER said. Are some of you guys reading posts before you respond? It would help raise the level of debate in here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GF1)</div><div class='quotemain'>I love how some of you are defending this fools action</div> Why Dale I believe we're being called out & I just love the lack of specificity that its being done with. I have a hunch that some will make an attempt (& fail) to have this thread become yet another opportunity to bash the Dwo & the phins. Neither Dale nor myself were/are Porter biggest fans. We certainly aren't crazy about his personality. Am I glad to have him on the team? Not particularly but just maybe his attitude is just what the phins need. If this is what is construed as support and/or defense of JP did then I suggest rereading the entire thread.... very carefully & objectively. As for trouble makers, Every team acquires its share of "characters w/ baggage" Cough Plaxico Cough.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>I love how some of you are defending this fools action. Eyewitness accounts said taht Joey Porter made first initial physical action and you are still defending him. Cheating at cards, CARDS? who cares, then don;t play wth him, take your money and leave. The dolphins overpaid and recieved a trouble maker, wasn;t this guy SHOT a couple of years ago. Enjoy</div> So you are saying that Porter *deserved* to get shot? I mean, you basically placed Darrent Williams' murder on Darrent Williams back when we talked about that topic. I have heard of people causing trouble, and getting shot for it. I have also heard of people getting shot who did not deserve it. I suppose that in the eyes of the shooter, JP was being a troublemaker. In the eyes of the rest of humanity, he was the victim of a violent crime. Let me guess what your next response will be, "All athletes should avoid casinos, because anyone with half a brain knows that they are trouble." Porter should get punished for assault and battery in this case, that is all. I know that we are living in 2007, but I remember a time when cheating at gambling meant getting killed by the cowboy sitting across from you at the table. I'm not saying that should have been the outcome, but I am also not overlooking the seriousness of the offense. You are right about one thing, the Dolphins paid way too much for him.
I hope the police report gets released sometime soon, so we can officially see who started it and why. I feel really bad for the classy guys on the dolphins like JT and Zach who are seeing this. I wonder what jason's point of view is. Neither of the DWO members on the board have EVER condoned Porter's actions they have just supported evidence against my argument that Levi is an "Angel" and they have swayed my view quite a bit, especially now that iv'e cooled off a lil lol . I no longer think of Levi as the innocent victim here because obviously he must have done something to ignite Porter's rage, what it was may have just been words that shouldn't have been said which def should not have resulted in a 7 on ass jumping.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FLORIDA PACKER)</div><div class='quotemain'>I hope the police report gets released sometime soon, so we can officially see who started it and why. I feel really bad for the classy guys on the dolphins like JT and Zach who are seeing this. I wonder what jason's point of view is. Neither of the DWO members on the board have EVER condoned Porter's actions they have just supported evidence against my argument that Levi is an "Angel" and they have swayed my view quite a bit, especially now that iv'e cooled off a lil lol . I no longer think of Levi as the innocent victim here because obviously he must have done something to ignite Porter's rage, what it was may have just been words that shouldn't have been said which def should not have resulted in a 7 on ass jumping.</div> I would like to hear more details as well because, will all the digging that I have done online for stories, I've only seen one account that said it was seven on one or that property was stolen. Why is it that that part of the story is not being more widely reported?
Calling out the character of a Bengal who has not been in trouble and tarnishing HIS name, not his organization, his name purposely to some how deflect what Porter did is DEFENDING him. I am not calling anyone out, I am purely making an observation. ROTR: You know you are twisting my words. All I meant by the getting shot thing is trouble seems to follow this guy. He was an innocent by standard at an "establishment". Sure it wasn't Darrent's fault that he got shot, he was at the wrong PLACE at wrong time. Notice the capital letters. Bad association spoils useful habits, ever heard that before? All I am saying is we all make decisions and the chances of an athlete getting in trouble at a nightclub or getting hurt is a lot greater then lets say sitting at home with the family and watching TV. Hey athletes can do whatever they want to do with their money and time I have just heard and have gotten sick of the many Pac Man Jones, Stephen Jackson, and Cincinatti Bengals stories. I really feel sorry for players like Carson Palmer and Rudi Johnson and all othose other hard working, team players.
GF; I find it odd that both Dale and I interpreted your post the same way. I did point out (as did DD) that <u>Jones did have a run in w/ the law</u>. I agree there are far too many athletes w/ far too much free time who don't suffer the consequences of their actions. Its would appear Porter has some impulsive control & anger management issues. The seek and destroy mentality is crucial for an OLB but only on the playing field and even then within limits. Like Dale, I can only find that one account. Isn't that interesting? Conspiracy theory; The last sentence in the link I made above (post #8) really makes me wonder... is this a publicity stunt? FP; Its good to know there is no ill will. What tweaked me was the rush to judgement and being too willing IMO to proclaim that Jones was allegedly a victim. I'd like to know what Dale wrote to convince you of LJ's less than stellar character. It can't be me... My powers of persuasion are so bad I couldn't sell a life preserver on a sinking ship. lol. 7 on 1 is totally uncalled for. Events like that should only take place in the WWE and/or other parts of <u>Sin City</u>.... what happens in Vegas stays there? I believe the police report comes out later this week or early next .
First, I wasn't trying to deflect blame from Joey Porter. I did say that if the Dolphins don't take him to the woodshed that I might call the PR department and voice my displeasure. What was irritating me was the suggestion that Levi Johnson is a classy guy and I certainly don't want to hear about class from the Cincinnati Bengals of all teams. However, at this point, I want to know if it was a minor altercation between two players or a seven on one beating with theft. While I don't excuse the minor altercation, there is a big difference between that and a gang jumping on someone and stealing. The accounts that I have read said that there was security present, so I'm not sure how a gang beating or theft occured or how it could have happened without being reported by more that one source and a Cincinnati news source at that. Regarding Darrent Williams, he was out on New Year's Eve. Do you know how many people go out on New Year's Eve? Really? There are other actions that Porter has taken that I don't condone, but being the victim of a driveby isn't one of them.
