Lillard's and Aldridge's relationship. (He will come back Portland one day)

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  1. bobf

    bobf Well-Known Member

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    To me they are quite ok. If both could hit 38% from three they would be ideal. They just need to be enough of an offensive threat to force defenses to guard them so Dame, Nurk, and CJ have space to operate. When Draymond Green could kind of hit a 3 pointer he was an extremely valuable player on the Dubs. Now that he can't, it's 4 on 5 on offense and his value is greatly diminished.

    Our starting five is +8.9 points per 100 possessions. Sub Layman for Harkless and it's +9.8. Those are our top two lineups in terms of minutes. Not too shabby.
     
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    Its not bad, I just dont think they can win it all without a pretty sizeable upgrade at least in consistency at, at least one of the forward spots.

    Whats interesting about both those guys is that its feast or famine with them, when they’re good, they’re very good when they are bad, its pretty ugly...
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    I would agree TBF as acquiring a quality upgrade at starting SF or PF would definitely put us in the contender category. With Aminu and Harkless as our starters we are just a solid playoff team and rely an awful lot on Lillard, McCollum and Nurkic.
     
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    @bobf referred to your argument as a Strawman fallacy. That is within S2 posting rules.

    Looks like you guys are clarifying the argument now. Haha.
     
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    Ok, then I misunderstood your response and I apologize as well. It seemed to me that you were creating a caricature of my post with your questions which did not seem to correlate to what I was saying.

    Yes, we are getting the same production on the same usage, meaning on the same number of offensive possessions/shots "used up" (by the whole team, not PF alone) . Since you only get so many possessions in a game, if one player shoots more, other players have to shoot less.
     
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    I can agree with that, but in my opinion the better players you have and the more consistent they are makes it harder to stop Lillard and as a secondary McCollum. Biggest problem with Aminu is that offensively he can be very inconsistent and in those games we struggle because it is harder for or scorers. Like I said, I have been an Aminu supporter and appreciate what he provides but like i mentioned to TBF Aldridge is a significant upgrade. I know you disagree, but that's just how I feel. I think many posters reaction to Aldridge is based on how he left, not how he performed when here.
     
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    I appreciate your input. It just seemed strange like i mentioned to Bob to only say Strawman to start the response to me. I interpreted it as if I responded to you and said Hobbs. yada yada yada. I never said it was against any rules. It was only a request by me and I even asked if I interpreted it wrong and apologized if so.
     
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    I understood what you meant as I read that post and others after making my post. Hence, the edit with yada, yada, haha. Making light of it after all.
     
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    No we can't win it all without a huge upgrade or an amazing fluke. If we had Paul George we would be at the top echelon, but even then probably not even favorites. I don't see us being able to acquire the level of talent needed. The most likely place we can obtain that upgrade would be if Zach blossomed into a total stud. What I am against is dumping a good player that we already have just because we imagine that a player like Zach will end up being better. Aminu is at least an average starter at his position, an above average player. Lose him and it's a step back even if Zach becomes twice as good a Chief.
     
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    Agreed. He has shown over and over that he is unreliable.

    He already screwed us by not giving us a chance to trade him. Now he wants us to give up more to bring him back?

    Screw you Aldridge.
     
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    If the Spurs would like to take my offer of Turner, Harkless, Labissiere, and our 2019/2021 (lottery protected) for Aldridge and Belinelli, it would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Yikes, two 1sts for Aldridge?
     
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    Yikes, Harkless for LA?
     
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    Considering they will be in the 20s, and we already have our young guys to develop in Collins, Simons, Trent, and Layman emerging as a starting level player potentially we have the luxury to move multiple draft picks to win now.
     
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    Sure but not for Aldridge. San Antonio would then flip Turner, Harkless, and picks at the deadline for someone even better.
     
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    Like who? I’m genuinely curious. Maybe someone like Hayward? Horford? Love?

    I understand the hate for Aldridge, I’ve had it for years... however, he is an all star big man still. He just dropped 48 points, still has his team in playoff position, and has a good 2-3 years left.
     

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