Lottery losers

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I know there are threads upon threads like this, but I got to thinking……..

    What happens if we end up with the 7th or 8th pick? Is that plus Ant worth any needle mover types?

    I’ve seen discussions around 1. I’ve seen ideas around 2-5, but what if it’s 7-8?
     
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    What happens when my daughter inevitably kicks me in the balls again because she’s a toddler and she seems to be good at it?
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    We traded Bowie and #12 pick for Buck Williams and was a huge difference maker.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    You make the best deal you can or you draft the best player available. Then you do your best from there.

    We're going to have to trade Ant and something for an at-or-near all star wing. Or a player who will be that good for us.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    She’s doing you a favor. No more kids
     
  6. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Different era, but ok
     
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    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    I think it would mean we have to add more future firsts to get needle mover/s
     
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    #havetohaveballstogetkickedintheballsFAMS
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    No. She’s doing US a favor, brah!
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    I'm expecting this.
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    Todays draft lottery results running the simulator 5 times all after reset.

    8, 2, 8, 2, 7

    Be prepared for "Lottery Loser" status.
     
  12. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    “And in unprecedented fashion, the Portland Trailblazers will select 31st in the first round. We just realized we forgot to include them, and accidentally drew the Hornets twice”

    “c’est la vie”
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Yeah there's a 56.6% chance that we get moved back and only a 42.1% chance of us moving up. Not the worst of odds but still more likely that we move back than move up or at 2.2% stay at 5.
     
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    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    I sure hate tanking. C'mon 10%....
     
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    If the pick is 7-8 makes it even more clear this team can't contend with Dame. Hopefully they would take a longer term approach and rebuild around Shae/Ant/etc

    Obviously getting #1 is a game changer of course I'm rooting for that.

    But not sure if we get #2-4 would the team make bad decisions to try and win now? In that case I'd prefer #8 if it means we'll instead keep the pick and do a proper good quality rebuild.

    Not sure I remember a draft with such a high value difference from #1 to #2.
     
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    Plenty of all time greats have gone #7 and much lower and it's very likely that many quality players will be available there this year. I continue to think thats it's far more likely they are able to attain contender status primarily through the draft then by trade &/or Free Agency, though it would take hitting on a couple more picks. Unless it's a truly great player (like most expect VW to be), they are more then a player a way from being legitimate contenders. Even if they luck out and get #1, it will likely take another season of young talent maturing to truly ascend to contender status.

    When a sure thing superstar becomes available, it's usually a pretty steep drop off. 1997 for example you had Keith Van Horn going #2 after Duncan... Chauncey Billups went #3. Lots of meh followed but at #9 Tracy McGrady was selected...

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    Don't trade that pick. There will still be a very good player available. Remember, when we won the lottery and got Oden, if we HADN'T won it, we could've taken Joakim Noah and been much better off!
     
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    Not trading a 7-8 pick is like asking Dame to ask for a trade.
     
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    Good post, yes I agree. While yes the Blazers might be able to get an allstar at #7 similar to pick #2 - if the Blazers trade the pick its likely worth much more at #2. So if they "cash out" the value of the pick they lose that opportunity to hit on a great selection at #7.

    This is why I want the Blazers to keep the pick, unless its some rare situation such as Jaylen Brown forcing his way to Portland and we get him at a very fair value.
     
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