Politics Mueller indicts 13 Russian nationals for US election meddling

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    Per the internets.
     
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    Russians indicted in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe of election meddling to support Donald Trump

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office said Friday that a grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for alleged interference in the 2016 presidential elections, during which they boosted the candidacy of Donald Trump.

    The indictment says that the defendants by early to mid-2016 were "supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton."

    The indictment said "the organization," known as the Internet Research Agency LLC, "sought, in part, to conduct what it called 'information warfare against the United States of America' through fictitious U.S. personas on social media platforms and other Internet-based media."


    "By in or around May 2014, the organization's strategy included interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, with the stated goal of "spread[ing] distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general," the indictment said.

    An announcement from Mueller's office said that the government accuses all the defendants of conspiracy to defraud the United States.

    Three defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud.

    Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html
     
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    Yeah, well dead people voted for Kennedy, so we're even.



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    This indictment completely clears the Trump campaign. Says that they were "duped" by Russians posing as Americans.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Damn, I wonder how much that person got paid?

    77- On or about August 1 8, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators sent money via interstate wire to another real U.S. person recruited by the ORGANIZATION, using one of their false U.S. personas, to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform.​
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHA! Mags was a Russian stooge.

    Defendants and their co-conspirators thereafter destroyed evidence for the purpose of impeding the investigation. On or about September 13, 2017, KAVERZINA wrote in an email to a family member: "We had a slight crisis here at work: the FBI busted our activity (not a joke). So, I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with the colleagues." KAVERZINA further wrote, "I created all these pictures and posts, and the Americans believed that it was written by their people."
     
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html

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    Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election.

    ...

    "By in or around May 2014, the organization's strategy included interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, with the stated goal of "spread[ing] distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general," the indictment said.
     
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    In addition to disparaging Clinton, they denigrated other candidates, "such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio," and they supported Bernie Sanders
     
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    But Trump asked Putin if Russia meddled in our election, Putin said no and Trump says he believes him.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ion-meddling-denial-asia-summit-a8051706.html

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/poli...p-vladimir-putin-election-meddling/index.html
     
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    Psst... I guess you missed the post where I said this clears the Trump campaign.
     
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    Speaking of the hacking...

    This indictment says the Russians used VPNs to spoof as Americans and from computers in the US.

    Yet the DNC hired security firm, the only ones to ever see the server to do any forensic analysis, say the Russians didn't try to hide their tracks and specifically talked about which Russian servers/IPs were used.

    Then realize that as easy as it is to spoof from computers in the US, it's just as easy for non Russians to spoof from Russian computers.

    The FBI and other intel agencies have serious credibility issues on some of these things. They take the word of Steele or the DNC hired security firm and don't check to see if the claims are factual. They seem willing to accept whatever the DNC is paying for as Truth, when it clearly is not.
     
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    I guess you missed the post where I said this indictment has nothing to do with the actual hacking (theft of emails), the only actual crime involved in any of this nonsense.
     
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    Yes and it has nothing to do with Pizza and Ping Pong.

    It has nothing to do with any of the Kardashians.

    It has nothing to do with the NBA All Star game.

    It has nothing to do with Elon Musk.

    So yes, you keep listing things it has nothing to do with this indictment because that seems really important to you.
     
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    I guess you missed the post where I said this indictment has nothing to do with the actual hacking (theft of emails), the only actual crime involved in any of this nonsense.
     
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    No, I got that part. Nowhere is anyone saying that it does.

    Are you talking about the Trump quotes I posted? Those are directly talking about meddling, which is what this indictment is about.

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Donald Trump directly asked Russian President Vladimir Putin during their talks at a weekend summit in Vietnam whether allegations of Russian meddling in last year’s U.S. presidential election were true, RIA news agency reported on Sunday. The U.S. president said on Saturday he believed Putin’s denial of the accusations despite the view of U.S. intelligence agencies that Russian interference did take place.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-russian-meddling-were-true-ria-idUSKBN1DC0JF


    Trump says he believes Putin's election meddling denials

    President Donald Trump suggested on Saturday he's done confronting Russian President Vladimir Putin over his country's election meddling since it's insulting to the Russian leader.

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/11/poli...p-vladimir-putin-election-meddling/index.html
     
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    Yes, you're right, this indictment doesn't talk about hacking. It also doesn't talk about all the people Hillary has killed. So obviously this is a false indictment.
     

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