OT NBA Finally Ready To Make Rule Change On Hack-A-Player

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BigGameDamian, Feb 5, 2016.

Moderators: 7

Moderators

  1. BrianFromWA
  2. Chris Craig
  3. Darkwebs
  4. Ed O
  5. PtldPlatypus
  6. SlyPokerDog
  7. Strenuus
Page 1 of 11
  1. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,750
    Likes Received:
    11,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    [​IMG]
    The NBA may finally be ready to create rule changes to the Hack-A-Player rules.

    “I’m increasingly of the view that we will be looking to make some sort of change in that rule this summer,” said Adam Silver.

    Silver has long been neutral to the strategy of intentionally fouling a player who is poor at free throws.

    “Even for those who had not wanted to make the change, we’re being forced to that position just based on these sophisticated coaches understandably using every tactic available to them," Silver said. "It’s just not the way we want to see the game played."

    There have been nearly 300 Hack-A-Player instances this season compared to 164 in all of last season.

    DeAndre Jordan, Andre Drummond and Dwight Howard comprise the majority of Hack-A-Player fouls.
    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240678/NBA-Finally-Ready-To-Make-Rule-Change-On-Hack-A-Player
     
    BigGameDamian, Feb 5, 2016
    #1
  2. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    12,805
    Likes Received:
    5,927
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Gear Finisher
    Location:
    Lebanon, Oregon
    That's bullshit. If a player can't be bothered to improve his free throw shooting he shouldn't be shielded by some cockamamie rule.
     
    BlazerWookee, Feb 5, 2016
    #2
    Draco, kjironman1, UncleCliffy'sDaddy and 13 others like this.
  3. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,584
    Likes Received:
    13,219
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Ha, they should make a rule that after your 10th free throw miss as a single player in a game that the other team gets to shoot a technical each time you miss.
     
    bodyman5000 and 1, Feb 5, 2016
    #3
    Jade Falcon, Draco, rasheedfan2005 and 2 others like this.
  4. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    18,882
    Likes Received:
    15,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    PDX
    Not the way you want to see the game played huh?

    How about the sophisticated players that have learned to fool the refs with flop antics and the overall pussification of the game.

    But Na, let's focus on hack an NBA player, the supposed best in the world, thst can't even score a free throw.

    Maybe they should move the line in..
     
    HailBlazers, Feb 5, 2016
    #4
    Draco, PDXFonz, UncleCliffy'sDaddy and 11 others like this.
  5. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,750
    Likes Received:
    11,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just like any other new rule implemented that the fans didn't like, they'll get over it. The game will go on!
     
    BigGameDamian, Feb 5, 2016
    #5
    riverman and KingSpeed like this.
  6. Harry's Raincoat

    Harry's Raincoat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2007
    Messages:
    926
    Likes Received:
    620
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Any hack-a-player fouls must be shot underhanded from the top of the key!
     
    Harry's Raincoat, Feb 5, 2016
    #6
    dviss1 and HailBlazers like this.
  7. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    61,010
    Likes Received:
    21,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    I've been against such a rule change for a long time but I get it now. It's so arbitrary that you can do it for the first 10 minutes but not the last 2. They're not competitive fouls. They're just people walking up to a guy without the ball and hugging him or grabbing his arm. It's stupid. I'm ready for the change.
     
    KingSpeed, Feb 5, 2016
    #7
    riverman likes this.
  8. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    116,469
    Likes Received:
    114,469
    Trophy Points:
    115
    At the same time the NBA should move back the free throw line to 12ft. The NFL moved back the extra point line and it did make the game more exciting.
     
    SlyPokerDog, Feb 5, 2016
    #8
  9. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    13,851
    Likes Received:
    13,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master of Xen Foro
    Location:
    La Grande, OR
    How about go the other way:
    Instead of playing OT, have an FT-off (like some other sports do). First team to miss loses the game. Players shoot in order of minutes played that game.

    So, if, for example, Drummond plays the most minutes, he shoots first.
     
    Wizard Mentor, Feb 5, 2016
    #9
    Orion Bailey and Eastoff like this.
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,958
    Likes Received:
    10,630
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    I think it's boring watching Plums shoot FT after FT. I'd rather watch Dame do his thing.

    They can count the # of instances, somehow. They can come up with a rule, like "2FT and the ball back" to discourage it. They do have to differentiate for late game fouls to stop the clock and make it a FT contest, which is valid.
     
    Denny Crane, Feb 5, 2016
    #10
    riverman likes this.
  11. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    10,729
    Likes Received:
    7,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    blue9, Feb 5, 2016
    #11
    Orion Bailey and HailBlazers like this.
  12. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,513
    Likes Received:
    3,617
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The league is probably trying to keep the center position from being totally eliminated by the heavy reliance on 3-pt shooting.
     
    handiman, Feb 5, 2016
    #12
  13. HolyBackboard

    HolyBackboard 2 Hot 2 Stop It

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    718
    Likes Received:
    1,589
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Rip City
    If you can't make free throws, you shouldn't be on the court. You know the easiest way to stop the Hack-A strategy? Making one or two free throws.
     
    HolyBackboard, Feb 5, 2016
    #13
    Nikolokolus, Orion Bailey, BBert and 1 other person like this.
  14. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    16,499
    Likes Received:
    10,978
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    I disagree with the rule change. You've GOT to MAKE your FREE THROWS!
     
    tlongII, Feb 5, 2016
    #14
    UncleCliffy'sDaddy and Orion Bailey like this.
  15. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,061
    Likes Received:
    40,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The NBA does not have a vested interest in players improving their free throw percentages; their interest is in making the game more appealing to fans and advertisers. Free throws are stoppages in the action, reductions in the excitement of the game, and are therefore not desirable. However, permitting excessive contact unreasonably inhibits players from being able to perform the amazing feats of athleticism that make the game great, so free throws as a penalty for fouls are a necessary evil.

    However, consider the purpose of a free throw--it is intended to be a penalty for a violation of the rules (a foul), and therefore a deterrent to future violations. As any parent knows, if a penalty is no longer sufficient to serve as a deterrent, then it needs to be altered in order to accomplish its purpose. With the evolution of hack-a-player strategy, it is only natural for the NBA to change the foul penalty to discourage intentional fouls, and improve the overall quality of the game.

    Sure, pro basketball players should be able to make free throws. But reasonable people operate in the world of is, not the world of should. As it is, the game as a whole is harmed by the rules rewarding teams who foul intentionally. Remove their reward (ie, allow teams who are fouled to elect to take the ball out of bounds rather than require free throws), and you remove their incentive to violate the rules.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 5, 2016
    #15
    oldmangrouch, Wizard Mentor, riverman and 2 others like this.
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    90,262
    Likes Received:
    52,303
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    However, how do you deter hack-a-?? without taking away the ability to foul at the end of a game to try to force a miss and maybe tie or take the lead?
     
    Natebishop3, Feb 5, 2016
    #16
    Nikolokolus likes this.
  17. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,061
    Likes Received:
    40,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Perhaps you remove the side out option in the final 2 minutes of a game, thereby eliminating "hack-a-player" from 46 of the 48 minutes.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 5, 2016
    #17
  18. Rhal

    Rhal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Messages:
    12,997
    Likes Received:
    2,756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    Portland
    Should we take away dunking now because it gives an advantage to younger players. Should we get ride of the 3p shot or jump shots all togethor because some people are really really bad at it?
    It sucks that we change a game that would emiminate a portion of a players game that those players are horrible at and now dont have to work on simply because its not that entertaining.
     
    Rhal, Feb 5, 2016
    #18
    VanillaGorilla, Orion Bailey, BBert and 1 other person like this.
  19. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,513
    Likes Received:
    3,617
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Make it some sort of intentional foul. One shot and possession. No one would risk those odds.
     
    handiman, Feb 5, 2016
    #19
    BigGameDamian, oldmangrouch, Nikolokolus and 1 other person like this.
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    90,262
    Likes Received:
    52,303
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    So let me give you a secenario:

    The Blazers are down 2. There's 20 seconds left. They need the ball back. They can't let the other team run the clock out.

    Can they still foul to hopefully force a miss and get the ball back? How is this different than Hack-A-??? and how do the refs differentiate?
     
    Natebishop3, Feb 5, 2016
    #20
    BBert likes this.
Page 1 of 11

Share This Page