Notice NBA Scottie Pippen Says LeBron James Hasn't Passed Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan

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    Scottie Pippen isn't ready to compare LeBron James to Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, and it's not just because he has fewer rings.

    Rather, Pippen told ESPN's Cari Champion on a Wednesday edition of SportsCenter (h/t Chris Walder of theScore)he thinks James shouldn't be compared to Jordan or Bryant because they play different positions.

    "I don't think he's [LeBron] surpassed Kobe [Bryant] at all, no," Pippen said. "And I don't think he [LeBron] should be compared to either of those players [Jordan or Bryant] because they play different positions.

    "Kobe and Michael [Jordan] are both 2-guards. They're both scorers. They're mostly like a Kyrie [Irving]. They're looking to score the basketball when it hits their hand. They're not looking to make plays for anyone on the floor. They're not looking to be a facilitator. That's the role that LeBron plays because he's such a dominant and powerful force, and he's a great passer."

    To Pippen's point, LeBron is a far more accomplished playmaker than either Jordan or Bryant was. Specifically, he's averaged seven assists per game over the course of 14 NBA seasons. By comparison, Jordan and Bryant averaged 5.3 and 4.7 per contest, respectively.

    "I think he plays a lot more like Magic. A lot more like myself, how I played," Pippen said. "Obviously he's more dominant than both me and Magic because of the way that he plays the gameā€”his physicality, his athleticism surpass Magic, as well as me."

    It is worth noting, however, that James owns a higher career scoring average (27.1 points per game) than Bryant (25.0 points per game). Jordan, meanwhile, tops the NBA's all-time list with a career scoring average of 30.1 points per game.

    Ultimately, comparing James to greats may be something of a futile pursuit. Arguably the most unique talent the NBA has ever seen, James is the only player since 1946 who has sustained averages of at least 27 points, seven assists and seven rebounds over the course of his career.
     
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    Pippen was a better Blazer than LMA.
     
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    Varejao was a better Blazer than LMA
     
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    Zack Randolph was a better "clutch" player than LmA
     
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    The real story is that Pippen used a position scale. Kobe and MJ were categorized by Pippen as guards and that changes the dynamic of this subject.
     
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    I agree with the idea (and have said it myself) that it's essentially impossible to compare outliers like James, Jordan, Abdul-Jabbar and Chamberlain. Each was unique, they got to their best-everness in different ways. Which you like better is likely going to boil down to subjective measures like who's style you like better, which aspects of the game matter most to you, etc.

    James has long since surpassed Bryant, though.
     
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    LeBron is miles ahead of Kobe, I mean Kobe was a great player but imo he was never the face of a generation like MJ, Magic/Bird, and LeBron have been.
     
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    Kobe killed his chances at being the face of a generation with this photo
    kobe in white.jpg
     
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    I dislike the metric of number of rings as a big part of the measure of a players greatness. I understand it being a small part of the equation, but rings have so much more to do with things other than a single players "greatness". You have to have to right support players the right coach etc... etc... Now days it's all about the super teams which can skew the whole thing too.
     
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    If it comes down to rings then Sam Jones was
    the second greatest ever behind Bill Russell.

    In order of most rings...


    11 Bill Russell
    Boston Celtics
    1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
    10 Sam Jones
    Boston Celtics
    1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
    8 John Havlicek
    Boston Celtics
    1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69, 1973-74, 1975-76
    8 Tom Heinsohn
    Boston Celtics
    1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65
    8 K.C. Jones
    Boston Celtics
    1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66
    8 Tom Sanders
    Boston Celtics
    1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
    7 Robert Horry
    Houston Rockets
    1993-94, 1994-95
    Los Angeles Lakers
    1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02
    San Antonio Spurs
    2004-05, 2006-07
    7 Jim Loscutoff
    Boston Celtics
    1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64
    7 Frank Ramsey
    Boston Celtics
    1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63, 1963-64
    6 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    Los Angeles Lakers
    1979-80, 1981-82, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
    Milwaukee Bucks
    1970-71
    6 Bob Cousy
    Boston Celtics
    1956-57, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1962-63
    6 Michael Jordan
    Chicago Bulls
    1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
    6 Scottie Pippen
    Chicago Bulls
    1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
    5 Kobe Bryant
    Los Angeles Lakers
    1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02, 2008-09, 2009-10
    5 Michael Cooper
    Los Angeles Lakers
    1979-80, 1981-82, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
    5 Tim Duncan
    San Antonio Spurs
    1998-99, 2002-03, 2004-05, 2006-07, 2013-14
    5 Derek Fisher
    Los Angeles Lakers
    1999-00, 2000-01, 2001-02, 2008-09, 2009-10
    5 Ron Harper
    Chicago Bulls
    1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
    Los Angeles Lakers
    1999-00, 2000-01
    5 Magic Johnson
    Los Angeles Lakers
    1979-80, 1981-82, 1984-85, 1986-87, 1987-88
    5 Steve Kerr
    Chicago Bulls
    1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
    San Antonio Spurs
    1998-99, 2002-03
    5 Slater Martin
    Minneapolis Lakers
    1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
    St. Louis Hawks
    1957-58
    5 George Mikan
    Minneapolis Lakers
    1948-49, 1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
    5 Don Nelson
    Boston Celtics
    1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69, 1973-74, 1975-76
    5 Jim Pollard
    Minneapolis Lakers
    1948-49, 1949-50, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1953-54
    5 Dennis Rodman
    Chicago Bulls
    1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98
    Detroit Pistons
    1988-89, 1989-90
    5 Larry Siegfried
    Boston Celtics
    1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1967-68, 1968-69
    4 Manu Ginobili

    Ridiculous notion and should ONLY be used as the LAST dividing metric after nothing else has presented a separation.
     
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    And am I not the only one that thinks Pippen is looking more and more like a cartoon character of some sort? Maybe a Mad Magazine Character?
     

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