NBA Trade Deadline: February 6

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by TBpup, Jan 21, 2020.

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What other Moves will be made?

Poll closed Feb 4, 2020.
  1. Whiteside is gone!

    31.2%
  2. Ariza gets moved....again

    2.6%
  3. Carmelo goes to a contender

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Neil surprises everyone and trades CJ

    6.5%
  5. Small move around one of the TPE's

    24.7%
  6. Jack Squat

    35.1%
  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I felt the exact opposite. Even disagree on Dieng being all that much of a downgrade over Hassan, especially with both Nurk and Zach coming back.

    The game against Minny when Dieng was pulling Whiteside out of the paint, pump faking, and driving for dunks is still fresh on my mind. Sadly, I think that was Minny's most recent win, and they've lost 11 straight since.
     
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    Propagandist Unknown Quantity

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    You should change your name to W.B. or Piney Pitch or something along those lines, if you catch my drift.
     
  3. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    I mean the guy isn’t perfect, there’s plenty of other things you can criticize him for. But that Ariza deal was pretty damn good. The way Ariza has fit, he probably would’ve been worth two seconds on his own. If Gabriel turns into anything it’s a robbery.
     
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  4. B-Roy

    B-Roy Blazer Fan

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    I keep seeing “two picks” being thrown around as if it’s some great value, but it bears repeating: those picks are going to be in the 45-60 range, and those are regularly bought at cash value during draft time. Neil has slung second round picks like poo during his time here and none of those picks have come to bite us in the ass. If there is a target in the second round that Neil wants, he's been able to get them whether we originally had a pick or not.
     
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  5. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

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    ESL for my gf as well....incredible story on how she has come to where she is now. If you can translate the question or help her clarify, I'd be happy to try and answer. This site needs more female class.
     
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    Parker has a player option so we'd only be taking on Dieng who would fit better as a backup than Whiteside would, IMO.

    I'm not so sure about that. When KAT was out and Dieng was the center with no other changes the Wolves defense was #1 in the NBA. Since KAT has come back they've been 26th.
     
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  7. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    just a review of when Portland is 'scheduled to be next season:

    Damian Lillard $31,626,953
    CJ McCollum $29,354,152
    Trevor Ariza $12,800,000
    Jusuf Nurkić $12,000,000
    Rodney Hood $6,003,900
    Zach Collins $5,406,255
    Anfernee Simons $2,252,040
    Nassir Little $2,210,640
    Mario Hezonja $1,882,867
    Gary Trent $1,663,861
    (Andrew Nicholson) $2,844,429
    (Anderson Varejão) $1,913,345

    $109,958,442 for 10 players with the tax line around 139-140M and the apron at 145-146M

    now, the variables:

    * 1st round pick - 2.5-3.5M

    * Skal - RFA; 3-5M?

    * Full MLE - 10M

    * Full BAE - 3.8M (Melo?)

    * Whiteside - 8-12M

    so then, 15 potential players with 27M salary on low end and 33-34M on high end. Low end = 2-3M below tax line. High end = 3-5M above tax line

    and, the Blazers still have that 7M TPE to work into the equation

    that's bullshit....I have commended that Ariza trade several times

    more than that, I have praised Olshey's mastery of the bargain bin. That's his wheelhouse, and that was the template of the Ariza trade

    1 - yeah, I'm assuming Parker isn't going to turn down 6.5M

    2 - and yeah, I'm assuming the free agent market for Whiteside is going to be even less robust than the free agent market for Nurkic. Can you point to a team that would pay him more than 11M? Kanter couldn't even get half that. Furthermore, I don't think Whiteside signing elsewhere is a worse outcome than paying Dieng and Parker 23M next season

    exactly....he can opt in and almost certainly would. He's not going to toss away 6.5M on spec
     
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    Agreed on both points.

    Parker is for sure picking up that option.

    Also, I struggle finding where Whiteside finds a deal that will pay him more than what Portland should be willing to pay ($10-14m).
     
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    That's not very convincing. If you like, you can put him on the list of players who had a good game against Portland.

    Edit: you should watch the highlights of Whiteside working over Nurkic last season in Portland. Then what?
     
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  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus They don't do much, you know Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Well, to each their own. Reasonable people can disagree.
     
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    Whiteside Vs Nurkic : Here's the video: Whiteside scores 28 points on 11 of 12 shooting. He had 4 steals,2 blocks and 11 rebounds.
    Nurkic? Nurk was 2 of 7 for 8 points. He had 5 rebounds, 0 blocks but he did have 6 assists (whiteside had 0 assists). Nurkic played 23 minutes, whiteside 30 minutes.
    Whiteside's team won by 10 points in Portland.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401071476



    Edit: let's get that guy! he had a great game against Nurk.
     
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  12. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru spent money on booze broads boats wasted rest

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    Nurk can struggle with guys his size or larger.
     
  13. illmatic99

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    How is that relevant? I simply said that one game stood out to me, but not the reason I proposed that idea.
     
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    Just curious does having Carmelo open some doors? Extremely well liked by vets.
     
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    Kennard to Suns would make so much sense for both teams. Detroit probably won’t be good for another 5-6 years so it’d be a waste to keep him, Suns could use an elite shooter and their first round pick does sound like all right compensation.
     
  16. SIeepwalker

    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    I'm pretty sure she didn't understand your question at all so she went for a generic answer... But managed to contradict herself in the sentence :bgrin:
    So not really a meaning behind it
     
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    That would be a good video for the Nurk vs. Whiteside thread. Looks as if Adeybayo was not playing so maybe HW was fired up bgetting to start. How did Nurk do offensively?
     
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    Open the doors as far as...recruiting free agents? Can’t hurt.
     
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    yeah that’s my thought as much as we all love Lillard he and CJ haven’t been able to get anyone to come here. Carmelo is well liked and might be able to help lure an aging vet at lower cost. Just a thought
     
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    Nurk was 2 of 7 for 8 points, and had 6 assists.
     
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