NBA's 5 most overrated players

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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    HAHAHAHA RONDO IS ON THERE!

    CALLED IT.
     
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    I wouldn't say Whiteside is near over-rated at his current contract (a bit the opposite even) but you better believe he will be way over-rated once he gets MAX this summer. So at this very moment he shouldn't be on the list imo but if they did this article at the end of July then he is more than worthy of being on it.
     
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    Overrated and overpaid are two very different things. The fact that it is a foregone conclusion that he will be getting max offers from multiple teams this summer shows that he is overrated, though underpaid.
     
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    Four of the five have/had their teams playing much better than expected this year. I'd hate to see the impact of the least overrated players.
     
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    I kind of put Whiteside in the JJ Hickson category...can pad his stats
     
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    Lets put it this way. He wasn't overrated last year in my mind when putting up these similar numbers as this year.

    For me it is all about expectations vs contract. Next year if he still only blocks shots he is definitely overrated (which is almost a forgone conclusion).
     
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    Who exactly? Knight? The Suns suck. Rondo? They're the same mediocre team as before. Kanter? He's the 5th best player on the entire team. Carmelo? No, they're playing better because of the additions of Afflalo, Lopez, Porzingas, and Williams. Whiteside? The Heat have played the same if not better during the stretch he was injured.
     
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    Carmelo, Rondo, Knight, and Whiteside all had lottery teams looking pretty competitive. The Suns only suck because they have no players left after injuries and attitudes.
     
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    Did you not read my post?
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I half expected to see Dame or CJ.

    Why else would someone post this. Ahh, so cynical these days...
     
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    Dame is the most underrated PG in the league...
     
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    The dude is the face of Adidas and the face of a team.... I don't think he's underrated at all.

    And before anyone says it, I'm convinced Harden doesn't have a face.
     
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    Wasn't there a thread on here years ago where some person said they had slept with a faceless NBA player? I thought that just meant the guy wasn't a star.
     
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    Heh! You're welcome OKC!
     
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    I'd still considering making an offer for Whiteside.
     
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    Same here. We need a rim protector in the worst way.
     
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    Whiteside's real plus-minus (RPM) tells part of the story, as he's currently ranked 31st among centers. And in truth, his RPM is likely to be even lower in the future, as the credit received for blocks and rebounds is overwhelmed by his negative on-off numbers.
     
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    Hassan Whiteside: The NBA's best shot-blocker
    Lamar Odom once criticized JaVale McGee's basketball IQ by saying, "The game is called basketball, not run and jump."

    That quote comes to mind when watching Miami Heat center Hassan Whiteside.

    Miami's center blocks 3.9 shots per game, and for his career he is the NBA's most prolific shot-blocker in two decades. He's also fifth in the league in rebounding, ranking in the top 10 in both offensive and defensive rebounds per game.

    Impressive, right? It sounds like he should be the NBA Defensive Player of the Year, at least.

    Mouse over bars to see leaders - https://www.statmuse.com/view?s=141...1e2f&qid=a5d56387-b4c4-4f5f-ad45-0756dc6abcfd

    Not so fast. Here, the box score fails us.

    When Whiteside sits, the Heat are better on defense. Over the past two seasons, as Whiteside has burst onto the scene in Miami, the Heat have allowed three points fewer per 100 possessions with Whiteside out of the game.

    That's not all. The Heat grab more rebounds when he sits as well: 80 percent of defensive rebounds without Whiteside versus 76 percent with him..

    Why? Whiteside apparently doesn't know -- or doesn't care -- that the opposing center is the biggest threat to grab offensive boards, and that the most important job of any center, after a shot goes into the air, is making sure that opponent has no clear path to the basket for a rebound.

    Instead of boxing out, Whiteside appears to want the rebound for himself, according to my video review of Whiteside's play. This boosts his totals but costs his teammates rebounds. At the same time, opposing centers actually see a bump in their rebounding numbers against Whiteside, who is often just ball-watching once the shot goes up.

    It's a similar story with the block numbers. Whiteside seems more concerned about getting his individual block numbers up than keeping the opponent from scoring. Many times he will leave his man to "help" a teammate and rack up a potential block, even if his teammate is in good defensive position.

    So what happens? If Whiteside doesn't get the blocked shot (and he usually doesn't), the now double-teamed player often finds Whiteside's man free under the basket. Or if the shot goes up, Whiteside is completely out of position to grab the rebound.

    Either way, the opposing team has an easier time grabbing offensive boards, and with no rim protector in sight, has no trouble putting the ball immediately in the basket.

    Whiteside's real plus-minus (RPM) tells part of the story, as he's currently ranked 31st among centers. And in truth, his RPM is likely to be even lower in the future, as the credit received for blocks and rebounds is overwhelmed by his negative on-off numbers.
     

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