Olshey interview with Jaynes

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  1. BonesJones

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    It's not an accident, it's just funny how people will single out the win streak as some sort of separate entity, but they disagree when I view the other 69 games as a seperate entity, even though it's going along with their line of thinking. You can't separate the win streak without separating the rest of the season.
     
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    I don't separate any of the games. They all count the same.
     
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    Exactly my point. What if there was a loss or two in that stretch but they made them up elsewhere and still won 49 games? It wouldn't make a difference, but the conversation for some would be totally different.
     
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    I agree, from my memory of past posts it seems there are many more posters who tend to want to discount the win streak and act like it shouldn't be counted.
     
  5. Natebishop3

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    What do you mean by "all in?"

    Would I have traded for him? Yes. I still believe that Melo would do well in Stotts system. He can't be much worse than Aldridge frankly. Would I have traded anything of real value for him? Probably not.
     
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    I think it's them discountingnit as some sort of important entity, since you can spin the win streak and sample size without the win streak in any sort of way.
     
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    Aldridge played more defense in one game than Melo has played in his career. And I'm not a big Aldridge fan.

    What package would you have offered for Melo that Olshey didn't?
     
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    The package didn't matter. How is that question relevant? Melo had a no-trade-clause. We could have offered Dame and it would not have mattered.
     
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    They should have swept us in the regular season, and would have if Davis weren't injured in 2 games.

    We had no answer to Davis. We aren't multidimensional because we are young and lack another star.

    You don't take the 3 seed in the western conference with the 2nd youngest team in the league if you have a bad coach and no talent.

    I don't generally expect the 2nd youngest team in the league to match up well with every team in the league. I'm kind of shocked that you do...
     
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    Good point. What move are blaming Olshey for not making?
     
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    Should we be better off than those teams? What advantages do you think we have?
     
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    How many teams had a longer winning streak?
     
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    You're correct, we aren't multi-dimensional, which is why the 3 seed was a fluke based off healthiness.

    I already said those narratives lack proper context, yet you continue to use them repeatedly.
     
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    How far back do you want to go?

    I said we should have traded Aldridge when the rumors about him wanting out first came out.

    More recently, I thought we should have dealt those three draft picks for a veteran player and not drafted a 19 year old rookie and another shitty big that will most likely be out of the league in a couple more years.

    I don't blame him for not getting Melo or PG13. You can't force someone to waive their no trade clause and it's not Neil's fault that Pritchard hates Paul. But I think he's clinging to the Dame/CJ pairing and I don't think it has a future. I think he keeps adding young projects instead of looking for guys that can contribute right away.
     
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    They are facts. Regardless of context. Younger players don't get injured as much... But young teams don't usually find the kind of success we have over the last few years... We have talent. We have quality coaching. Or we wouldn't be making the playoffs every year.
     
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    Over half the teams in the league makes the playoffs every year... it’s pointless if you can’t win games in the playoffs
     
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    And I agree with you. And I said it as soon as Aldridge decided not to accept a contract extension. In fact, I said it right after he killed Houston and we beat them in the 1st round. He should have been traded.

    This was certainly a mistake on Olshey's part. But I think it takes a year or two for GMs to realize how much of a draw Portland isn't.

    Sure, and that's what he wanted to do. But hardly any of those deals were made by anybody. It just wasn't in the cards this year. If there are no deals you just go get the best talent you can.

    I think he did pretty well...

    I think he'll trade CJ if it will make us better, but I don't think those opportunities come up often.
     
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    We've lost to arguably the best team in history the last few seasons, except this season when we ran into the team we had the most trouble with during the regular season.

    No team in the league would have had success in those circumstances.
     
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    Yeah facts that be spun in any direction by avoiding context.

    We have far from quality coaching. I'm not even gonna get started on that. I'm gonna avoid this argument. Have a nice day.
     
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    I can’t wait to hear your excuse next season... there is always something right?
     

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