Politics Oregon proposal would require gun owners to obtain permits

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    A proposal by two Oregon lawmakers to require permits for all gunowners is generating buzz online and among Republicans at the Capitol, even before it’s scheduled to be introduced at the Legislature on Monday.

    It’s the brainchild of student activists connected to the movement that grew out of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida, where a shooter killed 17 people nearly a year ago, according to the bill. Sen. Rob Wagner, D-Tualatin, and Rep. Andrea Salinas, D-Lake Oswego, are sponsoring it.

    Wagner said the bill grew out of a meeting he and Salinas had last year with roughly 300 Oregon students following the Florida shooting.

    “Any opportunity for conversation around these controversial topics is really important,” Wagner said. “It’s a really important message that we listen to students … about what it’s like to go to school right now.”

    The sweeping legislation would also require people to undergo background checks before purchasing or sharing ammunition and would limit ammunition purchases to 20 rounds within a 30-day period, although people could purchase and use unlimited ammunition at shooting ranges. It would ban magazines that hold more than five rounds of ammunition.

    Additionally, Senate Bill 501 would require people to securely store their guns and report the loss or theft of a firearm to law enforcement within 24 hours.

    If lawmakers pass the proposal, people who ignore it could face severe penalties. For example, anyone who possessed a firearm without a permit could be fine up to $6,250 and sentenced to as much as 364 days in jail.

    It’s one of 11 bills dealing with firearms that are scheduled to be introduced on Monday, when lawmakers and Gov. Kate Brown return to Salem to be sworn in for their new terms. The Legislative session begins Jan. 22. Not all of the bills would regulate guns. For example, House Bill 2287 would allow school districts to allow firearm safety courses on school property.

    In a press release on Friday, Rep. Bill Post, a Republican from Keizer, said the ammunition purchase limit would make it difficult for gun owners to become proficient and should worry duck hunters.

    Post also said he was worried the bill’s ban on magazines to hold more than five rounds of ammunition would mean “your old six-shot revolver would be required to be turned in or destroyed.”

    However, the bill exempts .22-caliber revolvers and any lever-action revolver.

    A separate bill is also being introduced that would require gun owners to securely store their weapons with locks and make it easier for shooting victims to sue for damages if the gun owner failed to secure the weapon, report the loss or theft of the gun in a timely manner or supervise a child using the gun.


    The proposal is named after the two people killed in the 2012 Clackamas Town Center shooting and their relatives are working to pass it.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics...uld-require-gun-owners-to-obtain-permits.html
     
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    From my cold dead permit filling out hands!
     
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    stampedehero Play On>>>/ SRV

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    Typical government bureaucracy will corroded the entire program. The penalty program is no favorite for anyone who believes in the second amendment.
     
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    I"M TRIGGERED!!!

    We have covered much of this already. But I do have recent news on the topics.

    Brazil has had similar strick gun ownership laws for over a decade. Read the Dec 31, 2018 Wall Street Journal article about the results.

    I do not know how to c&p from my cell.

    SPD would you, or someone else, do me a favor and c&p the WSJ article titled:
    "Brazil has an idea to fix rampant gun violence".

    Thank you.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Cool. I'll move back and bring a 22 revolver and start shooting people.

    IT WAS GHOSTS OR ALIENS!!!! HAD TO BE
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    God our politicians are utter trash.
     
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    The more likely result would be the murder of citizens defending their Constitutional rights and their country's government from the obvious coup attempt, and dead LEO's if they participate in the attempted coup.

    Roughly 95% of all Sherriff's in America are on record refusing to confiscate weapons from Citizens unless they have been used in the commission of a crime by that Citizen. Constitutionally, elected Sherriffs and their departments are the only legitimate LEOs outside of Federal Agencies.

    In truth, this is just another deliberately wasteful diversion from reality, which will cost Oregon millions upon millions of $ of government-paid salaries for these clowns to use this fake issue to hide the fact they are not doing anything at all to earn their absurd salaries and perks.
     
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    It's a pipe dream. Ain't gonna happen, not with a Trump leaning Supreme Court.
    I think they should try something more realistic, like changing the age of ownership of a semiautomatic to 21, eliminating cop killer bullets, ownership of bump stocks.
     
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    Hey look at the good news. If you stay in groups of 6 or more you have a chance to get away cuz only five bullets. Got to be in shape though and run before the 40 year old white Republican reloads.
     
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    Good news if you're one of the ones that doesn't get hit. I think it's good grounds for the perps to worry and piss in their pants.
     
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    You'd be better off hiding in your bunker than trying to kill cops.
     
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    Looks good to me. Hard to find the issue that is making the gun lovers pissed, but oh well.
     
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    I would be most pleased to stand and tell the judge, I do not need a permit. I have owned most of these guns for over sixty years now, as is my right given to American Citizen in the 2nd amendment of the Constitution. I am ready willing and prepared to show the judge the back ground to support the original intent in the Constitution, specifically supporting in Natural Law.
     
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    Yeah! Go for it Lanny.
     
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    You know Sly, you are a strange guy. I know your character type supports your actions. But you are boarder line there. Face to face you are a logical smart guy, well equipped to lead.
    But then online you slip into the ether of local popular feeling. Kind of like a bullshitter for hire. Do you every wounder about this? Or just Carry on for reasons at hand?
     
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    @MarAzul no where did I offer any opinion on this. No where. It is news. In reading your reply to me I take it that you would rather not know if someone wants to take your gun rights away from you. That's understandable, you're kinda old and have a hard time keeping up. I for one would like to know if there are possible changes to our state gun laws. How about instead of getting pissy you sit this out and I'll let you know how it ends.
     
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    Or maybe starting their own oppressive dictatorship on some island somewhere...
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Actually you attacked me for merely pointing out the obvious downside to such an anti-Constitutional, life-threatening move to overthrow our country.

    So that might be interpreted as you supporting this anti-Constitutional, life-threatening move to overthrow our country.

    Judgement call.
     
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    That wasn't an attack, that was solid advice. Attacking and killing police would not turn out well for you at all. You would be better off hiding yourself and your guns.
     

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