Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Chris Craig, Oct 16, 2021.
Id be carrying and would have put the barrel to his head.
My pessimistic feeling about humanity is that people would rather watch a tragedy unfold than step out of the anonymity of a crowd to draw attention to themselves and do something. Not everyone, of course, but the average person, man or woman. The Japanese have a (rather harsh) saying regarding this: the nail that sticks out gets hammered down. I think there's an element of that feeling to human nature and consequently, we also have heavy social conditioning in that regard.
I think there's also pretty heavy social conditioning for people to "mind their own business" because "you don't know every facet of situations you see in public."
wtf that's awful.
i went to school in philly and that was the very same train line i used to avoid (mostly cuz i didnt wanna pay the $2). used to walk home from my lab at 10 at night in the ghetto instead of taking the train-- was super shady.
My daughters are all trained to use a hand gun and long guns and the have permits. Guaranteed if any if them were on that train or wherever they would have acted ,this is exactly why they wanted to be well trained.
But what if the thug was carrying a gun?
If you stopped them with lethal force, chances are YOU would be arrested.
These days, in this climate, its best to let people be if it doesn't affect you directly. Walkaway.
Also, how far can vigilante justice be taken? Should they subdue them? Would anyone care if this guy was murdered by people intervening? I'm sure he wouldn't be missed.
You just let the unvaccinated live and let die. They are the undesirables, they have the Scarlett Letter on them.
If the train was shady itself, the riders probably are shady too.
Something *kinda* similar (vigilante justice) happened out here in LA recently. Some guy tried to run everyone over at a bar he got 86'd from. he crashed, they dragged him out of his car and straight up murdered him.
Honestly, I thought it was awesome they beat this guy to death. But now the cops are out looking for the guys who enacted infinite justice.
Problem is, if you are trying to stop a guy raping a girl, its so easy to murder that person since its justified and will do society a favor.
Incapacitate and subdue is sufficient
He did try to kill them first
Still, they took it to far.
As I always like to say, sometimes you need a little street justice to set things right.
Gotta at least break a wrist or ankle imo.
Gotta put that Fear of God in people. If there are no repercussions, they'll do whatever they want.
There’s definitely that because most of the time I think it is the smart thing to do to mind your own business. @Natebishop3 and @EL PRESIDENTE explained why it would be smart for them to avoid getting hurt rather than to save a stranger. I think it’s perfectly natural for a lot of people to feel this way. After all, our natural instinct is to avoid danger. But also, empathy is a very strong emotional response in some people, which drives them to put themselves at risk to save another person.
I suppose I’m the type that likes to mind my own business. But I’ve encountered situations when I felt a sort of sense of duty to do the right thing, even if it wasn’t necessarily smart of me to personally get involved. I believe under certain situations, your humanity requires you to do what’s best for the whole even at the expense of the individual.
One day a super AI will probably be able to give us an answer to do exactly the smart/right thing in every situation.
Yes, one day AI will resolve the problem.
By exterminating the human race.
A gun barrel at the back of the guys head would have immediately stopped the rape. Then wait for authorities.
If the guy wants to take a wounding bullet to the nuts or lower torso thats up to him.
Every civilization and culture, even if people are suppressed under tyranny, individuals have identified/and trained with some sort of weapon for self defense or deterrent.
This world and all the different cultures, is no different.
Exactly what I was thinking!
I think @Minstrel is one of them.
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The only winning play is not to have any other players.
Why do you always immediately go to the worst intentions for men?
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