Pau Gasol Requests Trade!!!

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  1. jason bourne

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    PAU-ER BROKERS

    By PETER VECSEY

    January 21, 2007 -- EARLIER this season, I revealed Boston had offered Memphis its choice of any combination of Celtics for Pau Gasol. Michael Heisley, a lame-duck owner at the time whose pending sale of the team recently ruptured, responded by anointing the franchise forward "untouchable."

    Well, guess what, Heisley's uncompromising stance has been rewritten on dust in the wind.

    Sources throughout the NBA disclose the 7-foot Gasol, an elite post-up performer, as tough a cover as there is within 15 feet of the rim, suddenly is eminently obtainable. Distressed at management's rebuilding-with-adolescence mood, the 271/2-year-old has asked to be traded to a playoff-positioned ensemble that, of course, would be instantly transformed into a legit title contender.

    The offended Grizzlies aim to oblige.

    I put this out there with utter certainty. Infallible informers report Grizzlies president Jerry West has explored prospective trade arrangements with at least three teams regarding Gasol. In order to protect my sources, the only one I'm willing to identify for the time being is the Bulls.

    That may be enough. Obviously, Gasol's low-dock dealing (averaged 18.5 points on 50.5 field-goal accuracy his first five seasons as a pro before missing most of this season due to foot surgery) is what Chicago's off-shore drilling outfit needs.

    The Bulls also own what Memphis wants, namely Luol Deng ($2.6 million) and Ben Gordon ($3.86M). In order to satisfy salary/transaction specs, Chicago would have to include P.J. Brown ($8.56M). I'm told the Grizzlies are prepared to add Hakim Warrick ($1.2M) to a pot that so far does not include draft picks; Gasol currently is on the books for $12.8M and is owed $63M over the next four seasons.

    That's as far as the exchange of ideas has progressed, so I'm told. As enthralled as Bulls vice president John Paxson surely must be by the opportunity to fill his team's lone conspicuous cavity, people in the organization claim he won't pull that particular trigger.

    "Giving up Gordon and Deng would be very difficult," a Bulls insider insisted. "John will never go there. Not even if Scott Skiles and the rest of the coaching staff is beating on him to make that swap, which isn't the case."

    As rapper DMX woofs, "Bad decisions lead to last decisions." Parting with the pair might prove to be just that bad, the same Bulls insider feels.

    "Does Pau get you to the promised land minus both those players? We doubt it. He's an All-Star-caliber player, no question. But we're not sure he can be the best player on a playoff team expected to accomplish something significant," the insider said.

    If the Bulls go strictly by what the Grizzlies failed to accomplish (0-12) in three straight playoff trips with Gasol as their leading scorer (20 ppg), I suppose that answers that. Rather than surrender both Gordon and Deng, I suspect Paxson prefers to roll the dice and hope inside force Tyrus Thomas matures faster than your average NBA toddler.

    But don't misunderstand; this negotiation is only in its infancy. What's more, now that Gasol's availability is public, the bidding for his services figures to take a quantum leap.

    *

    To date, the most "attractive" offer my Paper Clips have received for Corey Maggette, an essential component of LA's offense, is from the Heat: James Posey and Jason Kapono. Both are free agents-to-be; a negative, if you're the Clips, who have Maggette under contract for an additional season. Meaning he'll be at his best and on his best behavior in his contract year.

    Pistons commander Joe Dumars wisely announced he had no intention of trading Antonio McDyess or Jason Maxiell, thus silencing counterfeit reports they could be had. Clearly, Nazr Mohammed is being shopped, as is Dale Davis, but the player they're looking to lose is Flip Murray, who somehow ticked off Flip Saunders.

    Unhappy with Beno Udrih, the Spurs are on the prowl for a more dependable two-way, pass-and-shoot point guard. Meanwhile, when approached by the Clips a couple weeks ago concerning a possible swap of Udrih and Brent Barry for Maggette, the Spurs astonishingly rejected the notion. You figure it out! "They're only interested in players with expiring contracts," offers a rival executive.

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    You'd think Isiah Thomas would've learned his lesson - always have one time out left in the bag just in case - following the last-second loss to the Wizards; the Knicks were forced to inbound and dry heave from beyond midcourt. A game later the exact same thing happens.

    I understand Thomas is trying to teach his team in the huddle how to win, but burning a time out with 20 seconds left in the one-point defeat to the Nets, and the ball in the hot hands of Stephon Marbury, made no sense.

    In fact, it threw the Knicks off balance. Additionally, Thomas called a play for Jamal Crawford. Yes, I just finished applauding him for often coming through at crunch time, but Marbury was penetrating and making plays and the defense was collapsing. He deserved to decide the outcome. You got with the guy on fire. Crawford missed badly.

    Like the majority of Knicks fans, I, too, second guess Thomas' wisdom to play Jared Jeffries more minutes (24) than David Lee (21). That's just plain lame in light of Lee's consistent near double-double numbers. Imagine how productive he'd be if he actually saw the daylight he's earned.

    Aside from the fact Jeffries' defense is overrated (hmm, where did you read that before?), good things happen when Lee is on the floor. His DNA is on every loose ball and every missed shot.

    Yes, Jeffries was guarding Vince Carter when he misfired his two shots, but check it out: Carter blew an open jumper because Jeffries was back on his heels, afraid of getting beat on a drive; then Carter aborted a layup after getting around Jeffries. I'll say it again. Renaldo Balkman offers far more resistance and results.

    By the way, how about Cliff Robinson! He became the first player to achieve the rare combination of a put-back after a pot-back.

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  2. AznxBaller

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    Its Peter Vecsey...

    The man has pretty much lost all credibility at this point.
     
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    JRich + Pietrus + Zarko

    JRich + Foyle

    JRich + Barnes + POB
     
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    It would be pretty hard for the Warriors to compete with Deng + Gordon, if indeed that were ever offered. I don't think JRich + <crap> gets it done though. JRich + Ellis + <crap>, now they might pick up the phone to discuss that. If it were me, as much as it'd pain me to part with those two players, I'd take the hit on giving away two very good talents to receive one legit big man. That trade works financially and it fills holes the Grizzlies have with real talent. Monta's trade value is very high right now, but for all his potential, he's still a question mark for me. What's his role going to be on this team? He still turns the ball over way to much and I just don't know if he has the ballhandling skills and court vision to ever be a real point guard. Honestly, I felt more comfortable last night vs. Cleveland with Rooney at the helm.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">JRich + Pietrus + Zarko

    JRich + Foyle

    JRich + Barnes + POB</div>

    I wish they'd fall for Foyle + Barnes [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It would be pretty hard for the Warriors to compete with Deng + Gordon, if indeed that were ever offered. I don't think JRich + <crap> gets it done though. JRich + Ellis + <crap>, now they might pick up the phone to discuss that. If it were me, as much as it'd pain me to part with those two players, I'd take the hit on giving away two very good talents to receive one legit big man. That trade works financially and it fills holes the Grizzlies have with real talent. Monta's trade value is very high right now, but for all his potential, he's still a question mark for me. What's his role going to be on this team? He still turns the ball over way to much and I just don't know if he has the ballhandling skills and court vision to ever be a real point guard. Honestly, I felt more comfortable last night vs. Cleveland with Rooney at the helm.</div> Well i'd give Foyle and Monta for Gasol (of they would take it, maybe with Pietrus in the mix). They are building team for future, and we don't know if warriors will have money to sign both AB and Monta, in this way you get much needed low post player in gasol, get rid of foyle and definetly sign biedrins. It's sure thing, but if you keep Monta and Beans till end of their rookie contracts, warriors might not be able to sign them both I think...
     
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    Am I the only who would not want Gasol?
     
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    No, I'm with you Gohn! I'm perfectly fine with this team right now. In the draft maybe we can draft that 6'11 chinese guy.
     
  9. Custodianrules2

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    If we got a Pau/Biedrins frontline, I think that would be excellent. It would make up for the loss of Ike. But it depends who the other three guys we have supporting them are and who the bench is. Plus, how do we deal with other teams with the 7 foot 250++ pound players that can pound their ways in. Neither Pau or Beans has the muscle or mass to contend with the Duncan's, Dwight Howard's, or Brands/Zach Randolphs.

    But having two quick 7 footers on the floor together would be an interesting deal, especially one that can pass, score with either hand, and also do something from the inside/out + shotblock/rebound. I think Ike Diogu can do all those things including passing but Pau is way better and physically harder to stop if he has both a quickness mismatch against heavier guys, and power mismatch against smaller guys.

    I prefer if we had Baron/Ellis in the backcourt so we have somebody who can dribble drive, shoot, and be disruptive on the passing lanes.

    The question is... would Pau fit on this team's future and will he fit on the payroll? Plus, what are his priorities... to the Warriors or the Spanish national team?
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">iLL PiLL Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No, I'm with you Gohn! I'm perfectly fine with this team right now. In the draft maybe we can draft that 6'11 chinese guy.</div>

    I heard that guy is kind of raw, but he is an intriguing prospect. I gotta see if he can do those 360 dunks from the free throw line. They say he's that long and athletic.

    Yao is really hard on him (probably because he knows he's the only one that's actually a good player in China that could actually make an nba team).
     
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    Healthy Gasol is all-star player, simple as that.

    btw Voodoo Child saw this comming.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So with that being said, I think that West would probably settle for something along the lines of <u>Ellis, Pietrus, and a big contract, say Foyle, for Pau Gasol</u>. I really think that deal would benefit both teams, and in the long run, the Grizzlies would probably even wind up getting the better end of the deal. A lineup with Monta Ellis, Rudy Gay, and Greg Oden would be deadly in four or five years, and Eddie Jones' expiring contract gives the Grizzlies an opportunity to make a splash in the free agent market this summer with a player who'd compliment their games.</div>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Plus, how do we deal with other teams with the 7 foot 250++ pound players that can pound their ways in. Neither Pau or Beans has the muscle or mass to contend with the Duncan's, Dwight Howard's, or Brands/Zach Randolphs.</div>

    Well, there aren't many players in the league who can contend with those guys. What are the alternatives? Harrington? This team needs a PF to compliment Biedrins so that Harrington can play the SF or even come off the bench.

    What are the realistic possibilities at PF?
     
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    Gasol would be interesting...IF

    ..If we don't overpay and lose a lot of talent while locking in another large contracr.

    .....If Nellie is willing to go to a more typical lineup with PF and C,rather than have Gasol + Biedrins share Center.

    ....if we will be later re-trading Harrington,Jackson or both.
     
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    I'd also have concerns Gasol is not especially loyal and we might get the same thing if there's a more "glamourous" team interested. After all-had he been healthy-Memphis was a playoff contender on the rise.
     
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    I agree with REREM's points about Gasol. I will also add that Gasol is not a franchise player. He will not lead the team to a championship. It's just too much money to invest.

    Short term getting Gasol would be great and would definitely make this team a possible title contender. But only for a year or two. If any.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">REREM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'd also have concerns Gasol is not especially loyal and we might get the same thing if there's a more "glamourous" team interested. After all-had he been healthy-Memphis was a playoff contender on the rise.</div> Then again Memphis is almost losing on purpose now and making run for Oden.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I heard that guy is kind of raw, but he is an intriguing prospect. I gotta see if he can do those 360 dunks from the free throw line. They say he's that long and athletic.

    Yao is really hard on him (probably because he knows he's the only one that's actually a good player in China that could actually make an nba team).</div>

    From what i heard he's like an Asian version of Kevin Garnett. I would think he's a nelly type player because he's quick for his size and has a pretty good shot. Then again i could be bias because im asian [​IMG] But we'll see how it pans out. I dont think Pau would fit in this system at all
     
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    Pau Gasol is the player the Warriors need. The Warriors are kind of too one-demensional. Pau adds a inside-out player and a go-to player the Warriors need. With Pau Gasol we can feed inside and get a double team and Pau is tall enough to find the open guy on the outside or the cutter for easy open buckets. I would trade Jason Richardson, Mickael Pietrus, and Patrick O'Bryant for Pau Gasol. I would add Barnes or Azubuike as well - though they probably have no value to the Grizzlies.

    I highly doubt the Grizzlies take Foyle. I am unsure if trading Jason and Monta in a deal for Gasol would be the best. But I mean, how many times does a player like Gasol come around? I mean the Warriors seem to beable to find guards quite easily in the drafts and such. I would propose something like Jason, Monta, and O'Bryant (and second round picks) for Gasol and Warrick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">iLL PiLL Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">From what i heard he's like an Asian version of Kevin Garnett. I would think he's a nelly type player because he's quick for his size and has a pretty good shot. Then again i could be bias because im asian [​IMG] But we'll see how it pans out. I dont think Pau would fit in this system at all</div>

    If we got him and he turns out better than Yao as the overall impact player, that would make up for the 2002 draft. Yao is really riding that guy because I think Yao knows what it was like to be the best guy in the CBA and then find out that in the nba everyone is stronger and quicker. He is so damned intriguing though because he's athletic and supposedly all-around (just very weak). If we get a project, I hope it's him.
     
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    Speaking of Gasol and Yi Jian Lian...

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