Politics Paul Allen gives $500K to Washington gun initiative

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  1. BoBoBREWSKI

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    I'm fine with extended background checks. Can we have upgraded checks so "law abiding citizens" have ability to have concealed weapons and extended ammo mags too?

    If a citizen will allow you to go deep into their background, let's give those that are awesome like me a chance to have good weapons for the criminals that buy guns without checks. Fully automatic weapons!
     
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    No surprise that all the slave owners lead the gun confiscation march.
     
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    You bet. I would sort of like to pick up a Ma Duce for the bow to help through the rough spots.
     
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    Hope 594 passes and then Oregon tires to copy it.
     
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    Really? So let's say you are at the range and you let your friend borrow your gun so he can shoot with you. Now you must go to the nearest dealer to do a quick background check or you have a felony?

    Seems a little too much no?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Doesn't sound like an accurate portrayal of the proposal to me. As far as I can see it is talking about ownership transfer?

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    I was lead to believe that the term transfer in this proposition is even "borrowing".
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Yes I believe I am correct.

    "(25) "Transfer" means the intended delivery of a firearm to another person without consideration of payment or promise of payment including, but not limited to, gifts and loans."

    If you loan out your gun, the person must go through a background check

    http://sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/initiatives/FinalText_483.pdf
     
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    I suppose one could interpret deliver as loan. I like the idea of not being able to just give a gun to someone else, but you bring up a good point on how the the measure could create situations that would be unduly harsh.

    I'm still for the measure but would like to see it clarified for it not apply to those very limited situations. If not, I still think the measure as a whole outweighs those limited circumstances that could be unfair to some. That is why Oregon waits to se how it plays out non washington and makes adjustments to the measure . . . kind of like they are doing with marijuana.
     
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    I'm against guns made out of marijuana.
     
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    The background check is fine. I just think they need to clarify it more for a gun owner to allow friends to use the firearm at a range. My gun dealer actually let's me to fire some of his guns to try them out. That way I can try out different manufacturers that best feel right for me.

    Background check is fine. Just give people the right to let friends or customers fire them.
     
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    Only Sheep would support this measure.
     
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    If you pass that marijuana gun to someone for a hit are you delivering it . . . and if you are is that delivery of a controlled substance?
     
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    Only wolves would oppose it???
     
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    That's fine. But should we stop people from giving their guns to whoever they want?
     
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    I actually agree with that part of the control. Background check for any transfer of ownership. Absolutely!
     
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    And I agree that the measure could be better worded to allow for the situations you are talking about.

    Look at that gun control and right to firearms coming together to get something productive accomplished. We should team up in the legislature. :)
     
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    Hahaha :cheers:

    I'm not a cheating lying bastard. I wouldn't do well in politics
     
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    I'd say that once you pass it it's out of your control.
     

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