Notice Perfect example why it takes some luck to win a championship

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  1. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    The Raptors won the championship and I offer congratulations to them. If not for a lucky bounce though, they could have been eliminated by Philadelphia in OT and then you factor in the injury situation for GS. It's sometimes a fine line between winning a championship and not.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    This is true in life. Opportunities are either taken or they aren't. The Warriors have had luck too.
     
  3. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Talkin Truth! and Pissin People off!

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    It always seems to take a bunch of luck to win it all.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Meh.

    Preparation + Opportunity = Luck

    IMHO there is no such thing as luck, it's merely coincidence.
     
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    kjironman1 Talkin Truth! and Pissin People off!

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    Okay so it takes a bunch of coincidence "coinciding" the same way in in favor of the same group.

    Some call that luck.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Definitely some luck involved in winning titles.
     
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    I don't know, man. Luck is the Pelicans winning the lottery; it's defying the odds by chance. What the Raptors did was put themselves in a position to compete and then succeed. There are tens of thousands of variables in sports--which is why they entertain us--but that is what sports are made of--variables, ie "fine lines". By your definition, sports are essential luck, which maybe they are, but then isn't practically everything in life? Here's an easy test of the theory: if Kawhi's shot had swished, we wouldn't even be having this conversation? No, we wouldn't; we'd say: "What a shot!" like we did about Dame's shot. But since the shot hits the rim a few times, it sometimes loses credibility and becomes lucky? Also, no. But I get your point.
     
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    It didn't take any luck in the previous 2 finals.
     
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    I doubt that a healthy Raptors team, which they were for the most part in the finals, beats a healthy Warriors team in a seven game series. The 12 minutes that KD played showed that the Raptors pretty much had no answer for him. But, as I always say at the beginning of the season, it isn't the best roster at the start of the year that has the best chance of winning it all, it's the best healthy roster at the end of the year. This year it was the Raptors.
     
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    That was not what I was saying. I was merely saying that their is almost always some luck involved in winning a game, a series and a championship. In Leonard's case, go back and look at that shot again. It almost defies logic as it hits the front of the rim and bounces up slightly backwards only to come down and hit the edge of the rim and with the right spin it puts it going back towards the rim and eventually bounces in. That was luck.
     
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    Luck is ALWAYS involved in sports. It's part of the deal. I agree with dviss regarding preparation and opportunity, but opportunity often presents itself as a result of luck.
     
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    Interesting to see so many posters admit that luck plays a big part in winning a championship... Yet many of the same posters dismissed what the Blazers accomplished due to luck.
     
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    If you have two equally talented teams, luck or whatever you call it plays a part. If one team is much better than the other team, luck has nothing to do with winning a championship.
    Yes, sometimes it's a fine line. And sometimes it's not.
     
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    There's a big difference between saying luck played a part in winning vs. saying that the winning was due to luck. The Blazers put together a really good roster with the acquisition of Hood and Kanter and positioned themselves well for a deep playoff run. They had crappy luck that Nurk got injured prior to the playoffs and that Kanter, Hood, CJ and Dame all struggled with injuries too. They had good luck that they ended up on the right side of the bracket and that Dame's shot against George was true to the mark (although that too was the product of a lot of long hours by him practicing and extending his range).
     
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    Nonsense, imho. The Warriors were able to sign Durant because the cap jumped the year he became available while Curry was underpaid because of his injury history from early in his career. If this is not luck, I am not sure what is. They assembled a super team based on early luck with Curry's contract, good drafting and the cap not being eased when new TV money became available.
     
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    The last 5 championships have been won because of injuries to the opposition.
     
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    BonesJones We got shooters.

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    But no luck in making the WCF?
     
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    BlayZa ANGHELLiC

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    GSW had a ton of luck with us blowing 15+ pt leads in multiple games :(
     
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    I agree in general that you can improve the odds of catching a break, but not everything falls under your formula. If we each buy one lottery ticket, I win and you lose, I'm lucky, right?
     
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    We were unlucky as we lost Nurkic before the playoffs started and then Kanter was about 50% if that so yes, there was some luck, but it was bad luck.
     

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