Sorry for the late start again guys, this one will run from 9PM CT August 16th to 9PM CT on August 18th. What do you think of the job that Jeff Van Gundy has done as the Rockets coach? If Rick Adelman indicates an interest in the Rockets' coaching job, what would be your reaction? Only YugoRocketsFan, igotask8board, Mag, Pakman may post in this thread. All other posts will be dealt with accordingly and actions may be taken.
Woo, guess I'm first. Let's hope my internet's not an issue. Jeff Van Gundy has done a fantastic job since joining the Rockets Organization. Any frustration with any ball club is usually directed at the coach, and Van Gundy has taken the brunt of that frustration. Yet his dedication to perfecting our team, and his attention to detail is almost unmatched in our league. Coaching-wise, as mundane as our offense may be, the healthy Rocket squads we've had have been to the playoffs. The man demands a great defensive squad, and how do you argue with that? So many of the recent championship squads have relied on a strong, strong defense to get them through the clutch. People often criticize "Van Gundy Players" but why in the world would you get the "Best available player" when they don't fit your system? Without digressing too much, Van Gundy brings in players he feels he can mold into Van Gundy-esque players. Players, that fit the system. I'd like to go more into the general "Van Gundy," but I'll await others' responses. If Rick Adelman were to show an interest in the Rocket, it wouldn't sway my opinion on Van Gundy either way. The system he plays is not a true half-court system, and with Yao Ming in the middle, the last thing we need is a fastbreak team. He took advantage of a crisp passer in Jason Williams (and then a more potent player in Mike Bibby), the versatility in Chris Webber, and the dead-eye shooting of Peja Stojakovic. The Rockets do not have players like the ones Adelman has had recent (and I stress recent) success with. Again, I'll wait for others to respond before further going into Adelman's coaching career.
In the three years that JVG has been with us, I think he has done a mediocre-good job for the Rockets thus far. With healthy players he has gotten us into the playoffs every season. He gave the #1 seeded Lakers a pretty tough time with his 8th seeded Rockets. He also took the Mavs to seven games, which is noteworthy. Even with the NYK he took his team to the playoffs six times in six seasons from 96-01 (including an appearance in the 99 NBA Finals). I agree with JVG in that the #1 key to winning games is defense. I also believe offense is very important as well. If Rick Adelman indicated intrerest in the Rocket's coaching job I would wait until next season ends to see how the Rockets do. If they are healthy and we don't get past the first round...something just needs to be done. I would relinquish JVG and hire Adelman if he is still interested, or someone else that fills the position well. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post">If Rick Adelman were to show an interest in the Rockets, it wouldn't sway my opinion on Van Gundy either way. The system he plays is not a true half-court system, and with Yao Ming in the middle, the last thing we need is a fastbreak team. He took advantage of a crisp passer in Jason Williams (and then a more potent player in Mike Bibby), the versatility in Chris Webber, and the dead-eye shooting of Peja Stojakovic. The Rockets do not have players like the ones Adelman has had recent (and I stress recent) success with. Again, I'll wait for others to respond before further going into Adelman's coaching career.</div> Rick Adelman has molded the Sacramento Kings into one of the NBA's most exciting teams, leading the league in scoring and making the playoffs every year since his hiring. He also took the Trail Blazers to their first and second NBA Finals berths (losing to Jordan on the second time...good times). I believe Rick Adelman takes full advantage of his players and uses there abilities to the max. Something JVG lacks. He would use Yao to his fullest potential. Yao Ming is an excellent passer, yet he only gets 1.3 APG. Yao can knock down the 20-22 foot jumper when wide open...haven't seen him take it once since JVG became his coach. Even in Yao's first year he got 1.7 APG. Not bad for a rookie center. I know Yao should try to score more often than not since he has limited touches on this team. But Adelman's teams are known for working the ball around, and almost every play someone ends up with an assist.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Rick Adelman has molded the Sacramento Kings into one of the NBA's most exciting teams, leading the league in scoring and making the playoffs every year since his hiring. He also took the Trail Blazers to their first and second NBA Finals berths (losing to Jordan on the second time...good times). </div> Again, I don't argue the fact that Adelman is a good coach, but his two successful teams, the Kings and Blazers, were completely different than our Rockets. His Kings squad featured perimeter scoring from all 5 positions, an offensive bench, and an up tempo style. There isn't much resemblance. The 2001-02 Kings, Adelman's most successful King's team featured: PG: Mike Bibby (13.7 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 5.0 APG) SG: Doug Christie (12.0 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 4.2 APG) SF: Peja Stojakovic (21.2 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 2.5 APG) PF: Chris Webber (24.5 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 4.8 APG) C: Vlade Divac (11.1 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 3.7 APG) Two of their bench players, Bobby Jackson and Hedo Turkoglu combined for 20 points, 8 rebounds, and 4 assists. Source His entire offensive-scheme was based on movement of the ball between players. They relied on their stellar shooting ability to beat teams. Seven players averaged double digit scoring. Where's the resemblance to the Rockets? Last year's Rockets should've seen a spike in scoring (I stress, only scoring) from our Non-Yao/Tracy players due to their injuries. Yet, outside of our big two, three players had double digit scoring. Juwan Howard, Rafer Alston, and. . Derek Anderson. The ones that came close? Luther Head, David Wesley, Stromile Swift. Three of our most potent options on the offensive end, aren't even with us anymore. Any resemblance the two franchises, at the Kings peak and our more recent "peak" isn't with us anymore. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I believe Rick Adelman takes full advantage of his players and uses there abilities to the max. Something JVG lacks. He would use Yao to his fullest potential. Yao Ming is an excellent passer, yet he only gets 1.3 APG. Yao can knock down the 20-22 foot jumper when wide open...haven't seen him take it once since JVG became his coach.</div> Riddle me this: Yao's abilities have not been fully utilized, yet, since Van Gundy has been on board Yao has shown a steady increase in his points, rebounds, and has stayed steady with his assist numbers (A slight decrease in RPG and APG when Tracy came on board, but the numbers rose last year). Why do we want Yao to pass? He's not a point guard, and he's sure enough not Vlade or Brad Miller. Yao's a dominant inside presence. He should only pass if he has to. He has a higher percentage shot than anyone else on our squad. Yao should be looking to score, not pass. He might be able to knock down the 20 ft. jumper when open. But there's Tracy McGrady. 20 feet and out is his turf; Yao shouldn't be there. And you say "wide open" when's the last time Yao hasn't been double teamed?! More or less wide open. If Yao wanders out to the perimeter, he will be swarmed with perimeter defenders as well as whoever is guarding him. He already has trouble putting the ball on the floor, and we're asking him to sit around the perimeter? Yao won't hit 100% from the field. And when he misses, who are wanting to get the offensive rebound? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even in Yao's first year he got 1.7 APG. Not bad for a rookie center. I know Yao should try to score more often than not since he has limited touches on this team. But Adelman's teams are known for working the ball around, and almost every play someone ends up with an assist.</div> Yao's rookie year, he had Cuttino Mobley, Glen Rice, Eddie Griffen, Maurice Taylor, Kenny Thomas, and James Posey. With those perimter options, of course he got those assist numbers! How does Yao have limited touches? Limited touches was the 04-05 Rockets -- if anything, Yao has gotten a good number of touches, and that'll only increase with Van Gundy. Adelman's teams are known for working the ball around, yet they're also known for being the joke of the league in terms of defense. His teams shoot nearly 50% from the field. That's fantastic. Yet, other teams shoot 47% against him. Not so fantastic. Adelman has had good shooters on his successful teams. That being said, Yao Ming is our best free throw shooter. . One bad shooting night with Adelman, and the game is lost. One bad shooting night with Van Gundy, and we have defense to fall back on.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post">Again, I don't argue the fact that Adelman is a good coach, but his two successful teams, the Kings and Blazers, were completely different than our Rockets. His Kings squad featured perimeter scoring from all 5 positions, an offensive bench, and an up tempo style. There isn't much resemblance. The 2001-02 Kings, Adelman's most successful King's team featured: PG: Mike Bibby (13.7 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 5.0 APG) SG: Doug Christie (12.0 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 4.2 APG) SF: Peja Stojakovic (21.2 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 2.5 APG) PF: Chris Webber (24.5 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 4.8 APG) C: Vlade Divac (11.1 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 3.7 APG) Two of their bench players, Bobby Jackson and Hedo Turkoglu combined for 20 points, 8 rebounds, and 4 assists. Source His entire offensive-scheme was based on movement of the ball between players. They relied on their stellar shooting ability to beat teams. Seven players averaged double digit scoring. Where's the resemblance to the Rockets? Last year's Rockets should've seen a spike in scoring (I stress, only scoring) from our Non-Yao/Tracy players due to their injuries. Yet, outside of our big two, three players had double digit scoring. Juwan Howard, Rafer Alston, and. . Derek Anderson. The ones that came close? Luther Head, David Wesley, Stromile Swift. Three of our most potent options on the offensive end, aren't even with us anymore. Any resemblance the two franchises, at the Kings peak and our more recent "peak" isn't with us anymore. Riddle me this: Yao's abilities have not been fully utilized, yet, since Van Gundy has been on board Yao has shown a steady increase in his points, rebounds, and has stayed steady with his assist numbers (A slight decrease in RPG and APG when Tracy came on board, but the numbers rose last year). Why do we want Yao to pass? He's not a point guard, and he's sure enough not Vlade or Brad Miller. Yao's a dominant inside presence. He should only pass if he has to. He has a higher percentage shot than anyone else on our squad. Yao should be looking to score, not pass. He might be able to knock down the 20 ft. jumper when open. But there's Tracy McGrady. 20 feet and out is his turf; Yao shouldn't be there. And you say "wide open" when's the last time Yao hasn't been double teamed?! More or less wide open. If Yao wanders out to the perimeter, he will be swarmed with perimeter defenders as well as whoever is guarding him. He already has trouble putting the ball on the floor, and we're asking him to sit around the perimeter? Yao won't hit 100% from the field. And when he misses, who are wanting to get the offensive rebound? Yao's rookie year, he had Cuttino Mobley, Glen Rice, Eddie Griffen, Maurice Taylor, Kenny Thomas, and James Posey. With those perimter options, of course he got those assist numbers! How does Yao have limited touches? Limited touches was the 04-05 Rockets -- if anything, Yao has gotten a good number of touches, and that'll only increase with Van Gundy. Adelman's teams are known for working the ball around, yet they're also known for being the joke of the league in terms of defense. His teams shoot nearly 50% from the field. That's fantastic. Yet, other teams shoot 47% against him. Not so fantastic. Adelman has had good shooters on his successful teams. That being said, Yao Ming is our best free throw shooter. . One bad shooting night with Adelman, and the game is lost. One bad shooting night with Van Gundy, and we have defense to fall back on.</div> Forget Adelman. The only reason I like him is because he is a highly successful NBA coach, and right now their isn't much to choose from. He might not be that bad though. Do you really believe that if we fire JVG our whole team will just stop playing defense? Shane, Yao, T-Mac, and Howard are not just going to quit on the team. Sure Adelman wont emphasize it as much...but bad comes with good. You can't have everything. I still stick to my word and I would wait until next season ends to see how the Rockets do. If they are healthy and we don't get past the first round...something would need to be done. I would prefer a new coach. Who would you choose besides Adelman? I think if we should make a run at Mike Brown. He was pretty successful with the Cavaliers last season. They have the same inside outside presence with Zydrunas and LeBron, and have a bunch of role players around them. But I think LeBron James is making him look to good. Damn, everyone else seems impossible. We could never land Mike Fratello, or Greg Popovich. All I know is right now JVG is the best option we have. A 3rd opinion would be nice.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">Forget Adelman. The only reason I like him is because he is a highly successful NBA coach, and right now their isn't much to choose from. He might not be that bad though. Do you really believe that if we fire JVG our whole team will just stop playing defense? Shane, Yao, T-Mac, and Howard are not just going to quit on the team. Sure Adelman wont emphasize it as much...but bad comes with good. You can't have everything. </div> I never asked for everything. He is a highly successful coach, but I wouldn't want him coaching the Rockets. He might not be that bad, but he might be. Do I believe we'll stop playing defense? No not at all. But with new coaches come new philosophies. And with those come new systems and outcomes. Shane hasn't played a second for us, we don't know how he'll turn out on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. So no, he won't quit on us. Neither will Yao and Tracy, but their games will change, and not for the better. The only time Juwan Howard has defended was when he was accused of stealing sun glasses. We are in arguably the hardest division in the NBA, definitely in the West. Teams like the Spurs and the re-vamped Mavs can play defense (well, Dallas can't really play defense. . as Dwyane Wade so brilliantly showed), as can Memphis. Not to mention a good Hornet side. With bad comes good, but in our division, we can't afford to have bad defense. The Mavs and Grizzlies would eat us alive. As for our offense, we'd play the two best teams in the West FOUR TIMES. The Spurs are already the best defensive team in our conference, and the Mavs are NBA finalists. They would shut us down in the second quarter. This isn't a Rick Adelman team by any stretch of the imagination. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I still stick to my word and I would wait until next season ends to see how the Rockets do. If they are healthy and we don't get past the first round...something would need to be done. I would prefer a new coach. Who would you choose besides Adelman? I think if we should make a run at Mike Brown. He was pretty successful with the Cavaliers last season. They have the same inside outside presence with Zydrunas and LeBron, and have a bunch of role players around them. But I think LeBron James is making him look to good. </div> Not to like, hate or anything. . but the question asks how Van Gundy has done for us and if you would want Adelman. . How'd Mike Brown enter the conversation? And for the record, Jeff Van Gundy and Rick Adelman are miles ahead of Mike Brown in the coaching department. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn, everyone else seems impossible. We could never land Mike Fratello, or Greg Popovich. All I know is right now JVG is the best option we have. </div> Yet, you said: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I would relinquish JVG and hire Adelman if he is still interested</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post"> All I know is <u>right now</u> JVG is the best option we have. Yet, you said: I would relinquish JVG and hire Adelman if he is still interested </div> OK. This is what I said. "If Rick Adelman indicated intrerest in the Rocket's coaching job I would wait until next season ends to see how the Rockets do. If they are healthy and we don't get past the first round...something just needs to be done. I would relinquish JVG and hire Adelman if he is still interested, or someone else that fills the position well." Got it? AS OF NOW, FOR THIS SEASON All I know is right now JVG is the best option we have. Which is true. When he is given a healthy roster he gets us to the playoffs. If we don't make it past the 1st round next season, I would want a new coach. As of now he is one of, if not the most hard working coach in the NBA. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post"> Not to like, hate or anything. . but the question asks how Van Gundy has done for us and if you would want Adelman. . How'd Mike Brown enter the conversation? And for the record, Jeff Van Gundy and Rick Adelman are miles ahead of Mike Brown in the coaching department. Damn, everyone else seems impossible. We could never land Mike Fratello, or Greg Popovich.</div> Since you think Adelman is not the perfect coach for Houston, I suggested someone else. Possibly Mike Brown. He wouldn't be to hard to land. Fratello, Phil, Popovich etc. aren't going anywhere. WHO DO YOU SUGGEST? You are anti-Adelman so say we didn't make the playoffs next season with a healthy roster. Wouldn't you want a new coach? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post"> I never asked for everything. He is a highly successful coach, but I wouldn't want him coaching the Rockets. He might not be that bad, but he might be. Do I believe we'll stop playing defense? No not at all. <u>But with new coaches come new philosophies. And with those come new systems and outcomes. </u></div> Well if you know Adelman is a great coach and he might not be that bad, then why wouldn't you want him? I know the teams weren't alike, but he is not going to try to run a fast tempo offfense if he knows it wont work. Say we went 30-52 next season with a healthy roster. Would you give Adelman a 1 year deal? Who else do we have a shot at?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">OK. This is what I said. "If Rick Adelman indicated intrerest in the Rocket's coaching job I would wait until next season ends to see how the Rockets do. If they are healthy and we don't get past the first round...something just needs to be done. I would relinquish JVG and hire Adelman if he is still interested, or someone else that fills the position well." Got it? AS OF NOW, FOR THIS SEASON All I know is right now JVG is the best option we have. Which is true. When he is given a healthy roster he gets us to the playoffs. If we don't make it past the 1st round next season, I would want a new coach. As of now he is one of, if not the most hard working coach in the NBA. </div> I see, you'd hire Adelman after the season's end. Fair enough. But if he was interested at this exact point and time, you wouldn't hire him? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Since you think Adelman is not the perfect coach for Houston, I suggested someone else. Possibly Mike Brown. He wouldn't be to hard to land. Fratello, Phil, Popovich etc. aren't going anywhere. WHO DO YOU SUGGEST? You are anti-Adelman so say we didn't make the playoffs next season with a healthy roster. Wouldn't you want a new coach?</div> The whole fact o' matter is that, it's either Adelman or Van Gundy. No, I wouldn't want Adelman. A new coach is completely different, and far off from our topic of debate. Van Gundy has brought in the players he thinks fits into his system best -- I suggest we keep Van Gundy <font size="1">(And stay On-Topic . . just kidding. .)</font>. But I'd like to point out, in Locke's post it asks for our <u>reaction</u>, we're not necessarily the one making the decisions here. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well if you know Adelman is a great coach and he might not be that bad, then why wouldn't you want him? I know the teams weren't alike, but he is not going to try to run a fast tempo offfense if he knows it wont work. Say we went 30-52 next season with a healthy roster. Would you give Adelman a 1 year deal? Who else do we have a shot at?</div> We have two superstars in Yao and McGrady. I hate saying this again, but Van Gundy has brought in players to fit his system around his two superstars. Adding in Adelman would mean a major overhaul in our roster, which would take more than one season (Due to having two max players). He may not try running a fast tempo offense, but what else has he done? Every team he's coached, the Blazers, Warriors, and Kings all had scoring spread out throughout their roster. That might be very efficient for those teams, but it won't necessarily be for us. Van Gundy is entering the last year of his contract, and if we were to go 30-52 I would take into account what happened throughout the season. Hypotheticals won't sway my position. If Rick Adelman showed an interest in our head coaching job, I'd pray that the Rockets did not sign him, the systems in which our players are suited for are NOT his. It's not my choice to offer him a deal or not, I've been asked to state my reaction, that is my reaction. We all know the capabilities of Jeff Van Gundy, he's a fantastic coach that can take average teams to the playoffs. That being said, we've had a good team for the past two years, and we're on the verge of an even better team. I think given the cirumstances, Van Gundy has done an excellent job as Rocket's head coach, and if Rick Adelman were to show interest in our job, I'd send him a fruit basket and hope the Rockets send him one too.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post">I see, you'd hire Adelman after the season's end. Fair enough. But if he was interested at this exact point and time, you wouldn't hire him? </div> Nope. That would not be fair to Van Gundy. With a healthy roster I believe this team with this coach is easily 4th/5th seed. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post"> The whole fact o' matter is that, it's either Adelman or Van Gundy. No, I wouldn't want Adelman. A new coach is completely different, and far off from our topic of debate. Van Gundy has brought in the players he thinks fits into his system best -- I suggest we keep Van Gundy <font size="1">(And stay On-Topic . . just kidding. .)</font>. But I'd like to point out, in Locke's post it asks for our <u>reaction</u>, we're not necessarily the one making the decisions here. </div> Well now. We all know that we both don't want Adelman as of now. I might want him in the future. I wish someone else here had a different opinion The reason I keep going off topic is because we need other things (similar topic) to debate about. We have somewhat similar opinions on JVG, and I am on my heels with this Adelman debate.
Due to the lack of participation in this thread, I'm going to extend this in hopes of having Pakman make an appearance and for you guys to expand on your opinions. So this debate will end on Sunday at 10PM CT. Round Four will be pushed to Monday.
I think Gundy has done a decent job, but is a little bit too defensive. Rockets need some offense so.. I would take Adelman. Year after year, Rockets have the most amazing defenses around the league. Van Gundy is always blamed for not having enough offense in his team. Well, Rich Adelman is a man whose team have led the league in scoring. Dont just think we will score a lot and not make it anywhere. This is the same guy who led Portland Trailblazers to the Finals. Adelman brings a record of 544-361 into the 2002-03 season, a winning percentage of .601 and in the playoffs his teams have posted a 53-50 record. I'd take that anyday over what Van Gundy has given us. Where do you think the Rockets need help? Some say PF, some say PG. Rick Adelman is not only a coach, he was a former player unlike Van Gundy. So he would know more about the game than Van Gundy would. Adelman has on court experience. He was a guard himself - Likely, he can improve our guards in assisting & make the Rockets an amazing passing team like Kings were. Also, Adelman has made the playoffs EVERY SINGLE year he has been a coach. Instead of having a 2man team like the Rockets (Tmac+Yao). The rockets can be a real TEAM just like the Kings were. I dont know about you guys - But im tired of watching the Rockets' sluggish offense. Its like when they dont know what to do, they just hand T-mac the ball. I dont like watching that. I want to see a run-n-gun offense like Kings had. The amazing passes Kings had. They played as a time, never relying on 1 or 2 players. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post">His entire offensive-scheme was based on movement of the ball between players. They relied on their stellar shooting ability to beat teams. Seven players averaged double digit scoring. </div> A team's main scheme should be BUILT around passing. Thats why its called a TEAM. Because basketball is a team sport. There is no team in the NBA that isn't or shouldn't be built around passing. Thats the flaw Rockets have is that they dont score off of passes. Every player has to struggle to get his own shot. Life is much easier if players can pass to each other. Assist each other in scoring. Thats how Kings were. Therefore, much better than the Rockets. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post"> Riddle me this: Yao's abilities have not been fully utilized, yet, since Van Gundy has been on board Yao has shown a steady increase in his points, rebounds, and has stayed steady with his assist numbers (A slight decrease in RPG and APG when Tracy came on board, but the numbers rose last year). </div> Dont you understand? Its building as a team. Not just a player. Riddle me this, would you rather have an MVP Yao Ming or a Championship caliber Rockets? Yao doesn't need to be 30-15 for us to win championship. We have many other great players who haven't lived up to there expectations because of JVG's conservative system. I believe our squad is as good as Kings' was. We just need teamwork to get those players invovled! When you play as a team - everything comes naturally and easier. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post"> I still stick to my word and I would wait until next season ends to see how the Rockets do. If they are healthy and we don't get past the first round...something would need to be done. I would prefer a new coach. </div> Remember - We haven't seen Tmac play yet. We dont know if Tmac will be as good as he ever was. We dont know if his back problems are perfect. I'd rather be safe, then sorry. I wont stay with JVG and say "give it another year or two." You should keep in mind Rockets have an old, yet experienced squad. We are slowing down every year. We're not going to waste this golden opportunity just to see if we can get past the first round. This isn't a Lets-check-if-JVG-is-good-for-the-Rockets-Season. This is, its the time to win a championship season. This is the reason why we traded Rudy Gay for Shane Battier. We wanted talent, right now, right away. We're aiming for the championship, nothing less! <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mag:</div><div class="quote_post">I We have two superstars in Yao and McGrady. I hate saying this again, but Van Gundy has brought in players to fit his system around his two superstars. Adding in Adelman would mean a major overhaul in our roster, which would take more than one season (Due to having two max players). </div> You say Van Gundy has brought in players to fit his sytems around his two superstars. Battier can not only play defense. He can score also. Its not like we dont have a scorer in him. Also, I get that you're trying to say that if we brought in Adelman. He wont be able to understand the team correctly. Well - the one major change in the Rockets has been the addition of Shane Battier. It isn't hard to figure out Battier's role in the Rockets. As you might have heard, he is a player which they call "the coaches dream." Any coach would take him into any team, you know why? Because he can fit RIGHT into the system of any team! <div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post"> Well now. We all know that we both don't want Adelman as of now. I might want him in the future. I wish someone else here had a different opinion </div> Yes, I do have a differen't opinion - not afraid to share it either. Bring it on!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pakman:</div><div class="quote_post"> Instead of having a 2man team like the Rockets (Tmac+Yao). The rockets can be a real TEAM just like the Kings were. I dont know about you guys - But im tired of watching the Rockets' sluggish offense. Its like when they dont know what to do, they just hand T-mac the ball. I dont like watching that. I want to see a run-n-gun offense like Kings had. The amazing passes Kings had. They played as a time, never relying on 1 or 2 players.</div> I don't think we could afford having a "real team" like the Kings with Les as our owner and 2 max players. Our team is pretty good the way it is right now. 2 stars (inside outside) surrounded by good role players. I still want to give JVG a chance because he has all the pieces he needs now to get out of the 1st round. He has all of the pieces HE needs to run HIS offense. He has never failed us with healthy players. I don't think the Rockets can ever run n gun like the Kings...not with Yao/Howard on the floor. I do believe Adelman will bring in a faster paced system for the Rockets. Our #1 concern on offense will not be use up most of the shotclock like in JVG. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pakman:</div><div class="quote_post"> Remember - We haven't seen Tmac play yet. We dont know if Tmac will be as good as he ever was. We dont know if his back problems are perfect. I'd rather be safe, then sorry. I wont stay with JVG and say "give it another year or two." You should keep in mind Rockets have an old, yet experienced squad. We are slowing down every year. We're not going to waste this golden opportunity just to see if we can get past the first round. This isn't a Lets-check-if-JVG-is-good-for-the-Rockets-Season. This is, its the time to win a championship season. This is the reason why we traded Rudy Gay for Shane Battier. We wanted talent, right now, right away. We're aiming for the championship, nothing less! </div> If T-Mac is good = Playoffs T-Mac not good = no playoffs Doesn't matter who our coach is. Adelman could never run n gun w/o a healthy T-Mac on this team. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pakman:</div><div class="quote_post"> Yes, I do have a differen't opinion - not afraid to share it either. Bring it on! </div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post"> If T-Mac is good = Playoffs T-Mac not good = no playoffs Doesn't matter who our coach is. Adelman could never run n gun w/o a healthy T-Mac on this team. </div> JVG's system is based more around Tmac. Adelman plays more of a team game. We dont know for sure if Tmac is healthy or not. I dont want to be the one taking the risk on Tmac. You said "T-mac not good = no playoffs." Thats not the same with Adelman's system. We have others to rely on if Tmac isn't on his best. I know im one Rocket Fan who isn't looking forward for a "Tmac not good = no playoff" type season. No matter what happens, I want the plaoffs, and if Tmac is healthy, we're a championship bound team. Yes we are, because now we have a "coaches dream" player in Shane Battier.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pakman:</div><div class="quote_post">JVG's system is based more around Tmac. Adelman plays more of a team game. We dont know for sure if Tmac is healthy or not. I dont want to be the one taking the risk on Tmac. You said "T-mac not good = no playoffs." Thats not the same with Adelman's system. We have others to rely on if Tmac isn't on his best. I know im one Rocket Fan who isn't looking forward for a "Tmac not good = no playoff" type season. No matter what happens, I want the plaoffs, and if Tmac is healthy, we're a championship bound team. Yes we are, because now we have a "coaches dream" player in Shane Battier.</div> I think you are ovaerrating Shane Battier. We have a better team with him. I think we are better than the 04-05 season when we got knocked out of the playoffs in 7. We are probably even WCF contendors. But championship contendors just because of Shane? 1st we need to do something about the PF spot (get someone who can backup at C). We just need to let the season play out and find out what else we need. See how all these newbies play out. A healthy roster is step one.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">I think you are ovaerrating Shane Battier. We have a better team with him. I think we are better than the 04-05 season when we got knocked out of the playoffs in 7. We are probably even WCF contendors. But championship contendors just because of Shane? 1st we need to do something about the PF spot (get someone who can backup at C). We just need to let the season play out and find out what else we need. See how all these newbies play out. A healthy roster is step one.</div> Yes ofcourse we're a better team with Tmac. But their is a chance Tmac won't play his best. I'm just not sure if you understand the importance of team ball. Which is something Rockets lack and Adelman has.
